[kenl1960]

I have never shot a rifle match so I want to ask a couple stupid questions to see if i understand the weapon class structure.

How do you determine the actual weight of a rifle?
Rugers web page says that the off the shelf 10/22T weighs 7.5 pounds, so as soon as you add a scope you put your self into Open class. Right?

But since sporter class says "unmodified" I'm guessing that you can't whittle away enough stock to make up for the scope weight?

Would a new inexperienced shooter, with an off the shelf rifle, stand any chance in an Open world?

 

[SubGunFan]

....................Would a new inexperienced shooter, with an off the shelf rifle, stand any chance in an Open world?

If you are talking about winning your very first 22RF F-Class match with your history and equipment.......... 95% sure...... Hell NO.

Could you do well in Open Class with a Ruger 10/22-T.....? Well that depends on a few things...........

1. Does the 10/22-T have a decent 20X or greater scope on it?

2. Have you found what ammo it likes best?

3. Do you have a decent fore & rear rest? (and a shooting mat helps)

4. Is the gun zeroed for 100yds?

5. Have you practiced any?

The Ruger 10/22-T has the potential........ How about the guy behind the trigger....?

.

 

[captain-03]

I was not really familiar with the 10/22T but did some checking up on it when I first saw this post today. -- seems like it is a very capable .22LR and should be able to fire very respectful groups at 100yds with the right ammo.

I do feel it important to chime in here and mention something about the competition aspect of our 22LR F-Class Match. While it is billed as a competition, I look at it more as a competition against myself. It is my goal to do just a little better than I did during the last match. There are far too many varibles in this competition that makes it impossible to have a completely "level" playing field. Some guys will be shooting high dollar rifles with low dollar scopes - low dollar rifles with high dollar scopes - some will use $2.00 a box ammo while others will use $20.00 a box ammo. - some participants have been shooting these type matches for 20+ years and for others it will be their first match. Our goal with these matches is have some fun doing something we all like to do!!

Put a low dollar scope (BSA / Tasco) on the 10/22T -- at least a 20X -- and come out and shoot a match. Don't worry about the competition aspect of the event -- there can only be one winner anyway!! Just use it as an opportunity to improve your skills and shooting discipline AND have some fun and meet some great folks!!

 

[shoeshooter]

Absolutely agree with SGF & Capt. I enjoy the fellowship & fun, but use the matches to motivate me to study, think, and practice to improve my shooting. As Capt. said, the competition is really against yourself. The matches motivate and provide a benchmark for your progress. If you can improve just a little every time then you've really accomplished something.

 

[sidroski]

Ken, them three are liars. They'd step all over each other to win. JK. Good advice from all three. Very good shots but they'll give you advice on ammo, scopes, rest and anything else, all you have to do is ask.

 

[kenl1960]

I have had a small amount of experience in shooting rifles.
But it has been about a million years since i did any serious shooting. In the Air Force i earned a small arms expert marksman ribbon, but that was 500 rounds through an M16 and they wouldn't even let us go full auto. I slipped between the cracks between wars and never got to touch another military weapon (curse those tech jobs).

So maybe it's like riding a bike, you never forget but the chain can get really rusty.

In any case, I have the scope on order, I'm looking at the BKL drop compensated mount, and as soon as my tax return shows up I'll get a rifle.

The one thing I still don't know about is the rests.
I'm sure that a couple of cheap sandbags will not do but I would hate to spend hundreds on a couple of cheap sand bags that look pritty and have a big pricetag. So if you have any pointers for rests, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks for the info and support. I'll let you all know when I get all the peices put togther.

Ken

 

[jbpmidas]

I'm using a Winchester bipod from Wal-Mart on the front. I think it is $42 + tax. I am using a Caldwell rear bag.

http://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-Deluxe-Universal-Rear-Bag/dp/B000G79ADU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1298150607&sr=8-1-spell

This is the rear bag.

 

[SubGunFan]

FYI.......................

http://www.msgunowners.com/t12622-2-19-11-practice-match-results-w-pictures#122759


.

 

[kenl1960]

I saw that!

FYI.......................

http://www.msgunowners.com/t12622-2-19-11-practice-match-results-w-pictures#122759


.

Yes, I saw that earlier. It looks like some really impressive shooting.
I guess I'll just tell my self that I'm only there for long range plinking and not look too close at the scores for the first few matches.

It looks like almost everyone has the Midway USA shooting mat, or maybe all shooting mats look the same. I saw a pro version on sale for $49.99 so I ordered it.
This pro version is supposed to have more padding and they replaced the black areas with a lighter color that should not get as hot.

There does not appear to be much consistancy in rests. I would never have thought to look for a bipod at Wal-mart.


Thanks!

 

[Xd357]

Ken if you haven't bought a rifle yet I'd look at the savage mkll.

 

[kenl1960]

Hi Xd,

I looked at what I thought was a Savage mkII.
It is a bolt action rifle, is that correct?

I know there are several people shooting the mkII but I was not comfortable with the bolt idea. I think I would spend too much time with my mind 'off target'.

I also see that there are a couple Ruger 10/22's in the mix and I had been looking at a 10/22T for some time so I picked it up today when I went by Van's.

 

[jbpmidas]

The bolt action becomes second nature after a while. I competed with a Kimber and it is a single shot, so between shots I have to work the bolt and load a round. The upside is I get my head off the gun and give my neck a little break. I can't stay on the gun for 10 or 20 rounds without losing focus.

 

[captain-03]

If you a truely interested in shooting the 22RF F-Class Match, my suggestion would be - come to a match and look over what is there ... rifles, matts, rests, bags, ammo, etc. I am sure we could accommodate you with a rifle and rest if you want to shoot your first match. Look, listen, ask questions, and learn before you put a lot of money down into something you may not be entirely pleased with .... a thought ...

 

[shoeshooter]

We will all look forward to seeing how it shoots, should do well. You know we're fixing to start whining about pics

Don't overthink the front rest thing. If you have anything at all, use it the first time and then go from there. If I was doing it again, I'd get a fairly cheap rest like the Caldwell Rock or similar. Maybe $60 - $ 75 tops. It's not that critical.

 

[Xd357]

Sweet that's alsome Ken! And shoes right we need pics!

 

[kenl1960]

It's still kind of basic.
The scope and rings are in the mail. (I've heard that before)

It's got a rich, walnut looking, wood stock and the heavy, hammer forged target barrel. The trigger, right out of the box, is smooth and light. I wish I had a gage.
They even put a warning about it in the manual specific to this model. I have always been concerned about dry fireing a rimfire rifle but the book recomends dryfireing several times to get used to how light the trigger is before loading the rifle the first time.



I hope I get the scope in time to bring it out for sighting on Saturday.
Does anyone have a bore sighter I can borrow?
I will probably put 500 rounds thru it before I even start ammo testing.
Then I'll start looking for anything that needs to be improved.

Since you are all wondering, the MSRP is $499.99.
I paid $399.99 at Van's and I think I can run it, as is, for awhile before my skill catches up with the hardwares ability.

 

[kenl1960]

We will all look forward to seeing how it shoots, should do well. You know we're fixing to start whining about pics

Don't overthink the front rest thing. If you have anything at all, use it the first time and then go from there. If I was doing it again, I'd get a fairly cheap rest like the Caldwell Rock or similar. Maybe $60 - $ 75 tops. It's not that critical.

Oh, Yea,

The Bipod was $54, also at Van's.
It seems like a nice pair of legs, spring loaded and adjustable from 9" to 13".

 

[captain-03]

Nice looking rifle!!

 

[Xd357]

Looks good ken.

 

[jbpmidas]

Looks good! I appreciate the simplicity!

It looks like your bipod is backwards. The legs should fold forward, or maybe I'm looking at it wrong.