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LATEST CMP SALES NEWS:
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AP .30-06 M2 BALL: The .30-06 AP ammo that we now have available includes headstamps: AYR, SL, TW, and LC. Dates of manufacture vary from the 1940s to the 1950s. Most of the ammo is corrosive, but some may be non-corrosive. The ammo is packaged in 8 round M1 Garand enbloc clips, in bandoleers, in spam cans. Purchases of multiple cans will be shipped in what appear to be the original wooden crates (two spam cans per crate). Cans and crates will be selected luck of the draw as to the headstamp. 4C3006U202-192P. Single spam can (192 rounds). $60.00. S&H at $8.95 per can. CMP will not ship any AP ammo to Massachusetts, Washington D.C., Puerto Rico, or the Virgin Islands. The following states do have laws regarding AP ammo, but the laws are unclear as to whether or not they apply to .30-06 AP ammo, since this ammo was designed for use in a rifle and not in a handgun. Customers from these states should be aware that even though .30-06 AP may be currently sold in their states, there is a risk of arrest and prosecution for the possession of .30-06 AP, depending on how their local law enforcement officers interpret their state definition of "Armor Piercing or Restricted ammo". These states are: California, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, Rhode Island, Tennessee, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Nevada. Residents of these and all other states should check your state and local laws on ammunition sales before ordering. Even in states where state law does not prohibit AP, there may be cities within that state that prohibit or restrict possession of AP ammo. See the ammunition tab on Estore at https://estore.odcmp.com.

BELTED .30-06 AMMO: CMP now has a small quantity of .30-06 belted ammo. M2 Ball, .30-06, Belted in 250 rd Ammo cloth belts, in .30 cal cans. Manufactured by Kynoch Works (British). 4C3006B200-250P. Corrosive primers. Manufactured 50-53. Weight 18 lbs per can. S&H per can - $9.95. See the ammunition tab on Estore at https://estore.odcmp.com

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I did -- 5 cans of it ... 960 rounds .. we will see ...
 

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BELTED .30-06 AMMO: CMP now has a small quantity of .30-06 belted ammo. M2 Ball, .30-06, Belted in 250 rd Ammo cloth belts, in .30 cal cans. Manufactured by Kynoch Works (British). 4C3006B200-250P. Corrosive primers. Manufactured 50-53. Weight 18 lbs per can. S&H per can - $9.95. See the ammunition tab on Estore at https://estore.odcmp.com

I have seen 2 1903-A3 rifles blown up because of Kynoch .30-06 M2 Ball manufactured 1959-60. I wonder if they have tested this ammo? The brass cases had poor annealing and the heads split and blew the stocks off the rifles. This can also happen with any manufacutrer of Korean .30 M2 Ball. The French made .30 M2 Ball and the same problem is apparent in their ammo. In Pike County the French ammo destroyed a Rem 760 Pump and a Rem 700ADL. The 700 had the stock blown off it. The 760 had the action swelled and jammed. I observed these rifles personally. Remember, the CMP was offering Korean .30 M2 Ball for sale and recommending it's use until the guns started to blow up.

The Korean ammo has blown up 6 M1 rifles and 5 1903 rifles that I am aware of.

Below, is a photo of a nice M1 that was fired with Korean PS headstamped .30-M2 Ball ammo. Everyone should consider reloading ammo before using foreign military ball ammo. The rifle would probably be serviceable with the addition of a new stock. Can you imagine the flinchitis you would have after an incident like this.


 

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The Kynoch mg belted ammo is really suspect. The Greek AP is something I would not use if it were dated earlier than 1950. I would also never reload corrosive primed ammo, after it was fired. The corrosive priming can deteriorate the cases and make them unsafe. Also, the fired corrosive cases can rust your barrel when reloaded and fired.

You cannot fault yourself on being careful.

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From the CMP Website today!!

4C3006U202-192P M2 Ball, AP .30-06. Various US manufacturers, 192 rds in a spam can..

Sold out - 5-09-10
 

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They sold about 2,000,000 rounds in 43 hours!! Unbelievalbe!!!
 

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So why did they have Mississippi listed as a state with AP laws (check your state/local laws before ordering)?

I couldn't find anything about it. I have been told it IS legal in MS, so to what were they referring?
 

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There are several rifle calibers that have been made into pistols in the last few years. 7.62 Nato is made in a pistol by Thompson-Center Arms. This prompted The Feds to add it to the pistol calibers that are illegal to own when loaded with AP bullets. .30-06 is still legal to possess in AP configuration..

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There are several rifle calibers that have been made into pistols in the last few years. 7.62 Nato is made in a pistol by Thompson-Center Arms. This prompted The Feds to add it to the pistol calibers that are illegal to own when loaded with AP bullets. .30-06 is still legal to possess in AP configuration.. Doug
That is exactly my understanding -- DO NOT PULL THE BULLETS AND LOAD .308 (7.62x51) -- May go to jail!!
 

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Methos said:
Yes, i'd like the answer to this too. I thought it was illegal to have 30 cal AP inclduing 7.62x51.
I know the ATF specifically excludes 30.06 AP according to this link, so it's not illegal to buy the M2 AP on the federal level... I just don't understand why the CMP would specifically call out Mississippi as one of the few states that regulate AP ammunition. Can anyone shed light on this? Have I missed something in our state laws? To what was the CMP referring?
 

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Methos said:
Yes, i'd like the answer to this too. I thought it was illegal to have 30 cal AP inclduing 7.62x51.
I know the ATF specifically excludes 30.06 AP according to this link, so it's not illegal to buy the M2 AP on the federal level... I just don't understand why the CMP would specifically call out Mississippi as one of the few states that regulate AP ammunition. Can anyone shed light on this? Have I missed something in our state laws? To what was the CMP referring?
Lawyer CYA was CMP's original stance on the issue. They started out specifically limiting the sale of AP to states that had a written law and/or guidance specifically stating that 30.06 AP was "legal" .... they originally excluded ALL states that did not specifically have this type declaration -- After much outrage over the issue from CMP members in mostof these excluded stated, they changed their position on the issue and agreed to sale to many more states to include Mississippi.
 
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