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I have the Socom. The Beo and Thumper are fine rounds too, but I liked what the 458 offered that was a little different. The 458 out performs the Thumper by a tad, there are alot more bullets available, and it feeds a bit better too. The Beo has feeding problems too. The Socom uses standard mags too. THEY ALL MAKE BIG HOLES! I am just about to start my reloading on the Socom.
 

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i want pics and more info please :thumbup: I once saw a crazy guy with a socom and some homemade AP rounds for it. Craziest crap i ever seen. He would take a jacketed soft point socom round, drill a hole in it and take a AP 5.7 bullet and a little hydrolic press and seat that ap bullet into the socom! they reminded me of those silver tip 30-30 bullets
 

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I have not seen, but I have heard that there are guys working on a sabot for the Socom that will hold .308 AP. I also hear that a .223 cal version sabot maybe next. I do know that some manufacturer made a run of 85 grn and 100 grn AL bullets that fire at over 3000 fps...but I cannot find where I can get some!

My main goal is to hunt with it...special bullets (Outlaw State Bullets) are made to open at sub sonic speeds. They are 530 grains and mushroom to over .70 caliber even after four petals shed!!! I will link to a thread with some pics. With a MV of 1040 fps that is more than 1000 ft/lbs of energy to over 150 yds!

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2888

Check out that thread!

It also can shoot 325 grn bullets at almost 1900 fps for about 2500 ft/lbs of energy out of an AR15!

It is impressive!

I am thinking about at the Beowulf upper to the collection too, just because it is a .50 cal, that is just cool.
 

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I did read something about that a while back but had never seen pictures. Looks like a really cool round that we will likely never get to have. That would be cool to both accomplish what a .45 ACP and 5.7 does...WITH ONE BULLET!

That round is a 5.7 killer more than a 458 Socom or maybe it is a blend of both? I have a 5.7 and love it, however, that system would offer everything the 5.7 does and much more...with the exception of just a few rounds in the magazine which in my opinion would be a small price to pay.

I can only hope it is offered here someday...
 

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the company that owns it is vbr belgium(sp) they are retro fitting glocks with these. holds 21 rounds in a standard glock. I have been trying for two years to get info on how to get loose bullets over here for reloading. Aparently it does take a act of congress to get these bullets in USA.
 

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but that bullet concept is very intersting to me. I have been thinking about approaching the local machine shop and see if they will cut me some of those darts. I am pretty sure those are tungsten so i will have to settle on hardend steel
 

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YOU BETTER CHECK ATF LAWS about manufacturing AP ammo.

I would love to have some, would help with cost even, but we would have to make sure of legality! I, like yourself I am sure, would NEVER jeopardize my RIGHT to bear arms by breaking the law, even if by accident.
 

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hmm you can buy pulled ap rounds off GB so wonder why you cant make some? I need to research this some like you said
 

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Rock River Arms has plans to expand their offerings in this caliber.

There is also word that it will be finally listed in at least one major reloading manual this year...

I shot mine this weekend at our camp...it makes me smile BIG!
 

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Thinking of having a 458 built on a rem 700 action this year, need to find a can first thats light enough or may just have to buy the tooling and form 1 one. If I do the ar route then you cant hunt with it in Ms. as it will be well under 16"

As far as the ap rounds go, you have to register with the state also, same as when you register a suppressor.
 

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In the 458 Socom 'circles' it is widely held that the Coastal Gun Works MIMS suppressor is the best offered right now...but it is fairly big. PLEASE keep us up to date on this project and the potential suppressor form 1 project!

Thank you for the comment on the AP, I was fairly certain that was the case as far as constructing AP ammo if it could be done at all, but there is ALOT of differing opinions out there...

Do you have to register surplus AP ammo or just AP ammo that you load yourself or 'make' yourself...?

I am not and would not do ANY of it until I got a letter from the ATF stating CLEARLY that I could do it and keep it...
 

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In the 458 Socom 'circles' it is widely held that the Coastal Gun Works MIMS suppressor is the best offered right now...but it is fairly big. PLEASE keep us up to date on this project and the potential suppressor form 1 project!

Thank you for the comment on the AP, I was fairly certain that was the case as far as constructing AP ammo if it could be done at all, but there is ALOT of differing opinions out there...

Do you have to register surplus AP ammo or just AP ammo that you load yourself or 'make' yourself...?

I am not and would not do ANY of it until I got a letter from the ATF stating CLEARLY that I could do it and keep it...
Debating on a bolt gun in 338 spectre, 338 whisper, or 458 socom right now. Dunno on the 458 since i already have a suppressor that can handle the 338 and have a 6.8spc action/reamers ready to roll when/if i get a 1-8 twist barrel.

Both if you reload and or purchase, although you cannot "make/mfg" projectiles yourself if i amnot mistaken.
 
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