Re: A Culprit Behind Poor Accuracy
I also believe that a dirty barrel when shot a lot can lead to a barrel waring out as well as over cleaning one. I have friends of mine that really don't know how to clean a barrel and over time think the rifle is shot out are just not a good product. Some are shot out, but more are not cleaned properly and are still a good product that can be made to shoot good.
I am discussing the build up of carbon which takes place not only in the throat area but just beyond it for a little ways. A bore scope lets one see how far carbon actually builds up in the first part of a barrel. It does take some rounds through the rifle for this to build up. The problem is the copper layer then the carbon layer then another layer of copper and carbon and so on as the rifle is being shot. Some times the copper and carbon work together to create poorer accuracy over a period of time because the carbon is protecting some layers of copper by being laid over the copper ever time a round is fired. This will be in varying degrees depending on the barrel, rounds fired, caliber and velocity along with bullet make up and powder used. What I was trying to do with the initial post (and not being an expert on barrels, copper and carbon build up) was to remind us to consider the carbon removal as well as copper.
As a friend of mine who competes and wins most of the events he enters, explained to me, and this really explains things and helps us frame it in our mind what is going on about the carbon ring. A carbon ring will generally start in the chamber, just at the point where your actual piece of brass ends. For example, say your chamber length is 1.515 inches, and you trim your brass to 1.500. The ring will develop in that .015 area. As I said before, they can be very difficult to see without a bore scope.
Here is some advice from Tony Boyer's book that my friend wrote me about. To attack a carbon ring, use a stiff brush that is one caliber size larger than your actual bore. In other words, say you are shooting a 6PPC. (.243) You would use a 6.5 brush. The brush has a small amount of Iosso bore paste on it, and is attached to a non-revolving cleaning rod, like the little one piece rods for a handgun. You place the brush just into the chamber area, and then rotate the brush. You do NOT want the brush to enter the actual rifling area of the barrel!!!!!
Using a bore scope I am able to see that Deaton's Gun care removed all of the carbon. It is the only product that I have used that does both with one product and not a lot of work. Here is a link - http://www.deatonsguncare.com/
I also believe that a dirty barrel when shot a lot can lead to a barrel waring out as well as over cleaning one. I have friends of mine that really don't know how to clean a barrel and over time think the rifle is shot out are just not a good product. Some are shot out, but more are not cleaned properly and are still a good product that can be made to shoot good.
I am discussing the build up of carbon which takes place not only in the throat area but just beyond it for a little ways. A bore scope lets one see how far carbon actually builds up in the first part of a barrel. It does take some rounds through the rifle for this to build up. The problem is the copper layer then the carbon layer then another layer of copper and carbon and so on as the rifle is being shot. Some times the copper and carbon work together to create poorer accuracy over a period of time because the carbon is protecting some layers of copper by being laid over the copper ever time a round is fired. This will be in varying degrees depending on the barrel, rounds fired, caliber and velocity along with bullet make up and powder used. What I was trying to do with the initial post (and not being an expert on barrels, copper and carbon build up) was to remind us to consider the carbon removal as well as copper.
As a friend of mine who competes and wins most of the events he enters, explained to me, and this really explains things and helps us frame it in our mind what is going on about the carbon ring. A carbon ring will generally start in the chamber, just at the point where your actual piece of brass ends. For example, say your chamber length is 1.515 inches, and you trim your brass to 1.500. The ring will develop in that .015 area. As I said before, they can be very difficult to see without a bore scope.
Here is some advice from Tony Boyer's book that my friend wrote me about. To attack a carbon ring, use a stiff brush that is one caliber size larger than your actual bore. In other words, say you are shooting a 6PPC. (.243) You would use a 6.5 brush. The brush has a small amount of Iosso bore paste on it, and is attached to a non-revolving cleaning rod, like the little one piece rods for a handgun. You place the brush just into the chamber area, and then rotate the brush. You do NOT want the brush to enter the actual rifling area of the barrel!!!!!
Using a bore scope I am able to see that Deaton's Gun care removed all of the carbon. It is the only product that I have used that does both with one product and not a lot of work. Here is a link - http://www.deatonsguncare.com/