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If you wanted an accurate rifle, not sniper/competition accurate just say deer accurate to an honest 500 yards, what would it be? I'm not planning to build or buy one I was just interested in the thoughts of others. I know there are several factory rifles out there that will easily meet my specs. Heck Marines shoot the M16 to 500 yards at man-sized sihouettes every year and consider the 500 yard prone to be the gravy relay.

So if you want to narrow that down to a 10 inch bull at 500 what do you do it with? What action, stock, caliber etc? Do you buy off the shelf or does someone build it for you? If you have it built what do you start with and what are the things you have done?
 
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So in your case you would start stock and modify if needed to achieve desired results. What version of the 700 do you satrat with? Do you get a tactical version or sporter? Come on I want to hear some specifics.
 
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So if you want to narrow that down to a 10 inch bull at 500 what do you do it with? What action, stock, caliber etc? Do you buy off the shelf or does someone build it for you? If you have it built what do you start with and what are the things you have done?
You tell me. I'm looking for what others would do. I didn't specify a budget just a final accuracy requirement of 10 inches at 500 yards. You take it from there.
 

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By all means, the Savage "F" class rifle in .308 Winchester. They are winning a LOT of F class matches both domestic and Internationsl. They are fired at 600 yards.

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As far as calibers go, I personally would not stray from the tried and true 308 (7.62x51, if you prefer). It is more than adequate at 500 yards and farther. It's been the caliber of choice for M&P forces around the world for many years and I love it. I'm not even going to get into "sky's the limit" on this topic since it's really not a requirement. It can easily be accomplished off the shelf. Heck, any rifle capable of 1 MOA shooting will be in your 10" requirement as well as hitting that deer. Remington, Savage, Sako and Weatherby would be the brands I would look at. This is one of those things where my Dad would have been saying that it has more to do with the shooter than the gun and he was an authority in this area.

I have two rifles in 308 that are exceptional shooters just the way they came out of the box and both will make 500 yard shots easily. The first is a Remington 700 PSS. It's an older model and was built well at the factory. It has an H.S. Precision stock and a heavy barrel but with the bull barrel it's a little on the heavy side. Since I do a lot of backpacking, it wouldn't bother me to carry it around hunting but most people wouldn't want to.

That brings me to a rifle that I picked up kind of on impulse but have been glad I did, a Weatherby Mark V. It has a medium heavy fluted barrel and is a relatively light gun but is very accurate. It's the first Weatherby that I had ever shot. It's a great shooter and I like the way it looks as much as the way it shoots.
Top 'em off with some good optics and your ready to go. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
 

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My old Savage 110 in 30.06 with a sporter barrel shot 7" groups at 600 last summer shooting reloads. I have seen the out of the box all stock Savages outshoot a BUNCH of higher end guns.
 

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I think the glass on it is more of a deal breaker than the rifle at 500 yards. Hard to shoot something you can't see to good.
 

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IM having good luck with my factory Rem 700 SPS in .270. 4" group at 400 yards easy. Thats with the wind gusting so im sure it would do better than that.

My Delton Parts kit M4 that ran me $565 and it is capable of hitting a 15" gong at 400 yards 29 out of 30 shots with some cheap plinking reloads. Thats with the wind blowing too :lol4:

Ill be glad when it calms down some out there. I dont want to waste bullets trying for a 1000yd shot with a 20mph wind that keeps changing :tears:
 

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I have to also agree with Doug. I have been hearing some really great things about the Savage rifles. THey seem to really be listining to what the customers are wanting. I think one of their F-class rifles topped with some good glass would fit the bill well and not break the bank.
 

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75mm objective lens. That is the biggest I've ever heard of. I bet it's crap and it is some manufacture using large glass instead of quality glass. I say this softly incase I have to eat my words.
 

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ATN, they make 2 in the professional class the other is 12X36X80, could not affort that one, but the 8X24 with a rangefinder is great once you get used to it. i need a higher cheek rest though.
 

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I wouldn't mind a SAKO or Tikka in 308. I've heard good things about the Savages as well. A Browning X-Bolt wouldn't hurt my feelings either.
 

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Accuracy is not a new technology

All this new technology is not new. I have a Winchester Prewar Model 70 in .270 WXF. It is capable of 5/8" groups at 100 yards from the bench (5 shots). I use a Burris Signature 8x32x44mm for targets and a Tasco 2.5x10x42mm for deer hunting. It is amazing how well the Tasco performs for a $60 telescope. The Burris is better but it is $600. In 1984, I used the rifle with a Lyman long slide receiver sight and a Lyman 17A globe sight, at our first over the course NRA 600 yard match at our club. The rifle was my Father's and I wore his old Fedora for the occasion. I shot 189 points at 600 yards from the prone position. It is truly an accurate rifle. THe rifle was assembled by Winchester in August 1937. The receiver was made in May, 1936. I was using 150 gr Sierra SPBT bullets with 54 gr IMR4831 and a Federal Match Primer.

The wood to metal fit on the rilfe is beautiful. The checkering is hand applied, and the action is smooth as glass. These features are not available on factory rifles any more. The Tasco 2.5x10x42mm is on the rifle.




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