AN update on M1 Garands and M1 Carbines from S. Korea
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I cant believe just how dumb some people are... and they went to college.....
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Everyone is PASSING THE BUCK........ None of those "nut-less wonders" either knows what is happening, or doesn't want to be the "bad guy"........
If the US Goberment uses 1 friggin US taxpayer dollar to melt (destroy) those Garands and Carbines, that just shows how FU*KED UP the current administration is. When will DemocRATS realize you can sell things and MAKE $$$ instead of PAYING $$$ to destroy things................. I guess the DemocRATS are too busy thinking about who will pay for all their FREE HAND-OUTS..............
MAN, this crap pisses me off ! ! !
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If the US Goberment uses 1 friggin US taxpayer dollar to melt (destroy) those Garands and Carbines, that just shows how FU*KED UP the current administration is. When will DemocRATS realize you can sell things and MAKE $$$ instead of PAYING $$$ to destroy things................. I guess the DemocRATS are too busy thinking about who will pay for all their FREE HAND-OUTS..............
MAN, this crap pisses me off ! ! !
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I hope the Koreans are more intelligent than the US idiots.
I predict that they are and that they will figure out a way to make the most $ on the guns---and that they will not melt them down.
Maybe they can sell them to some Mexican drug cartel and the Mexicans can bring them into the US. Should be more profitable than marijuana.
I predict that they are and that they will figure out a way to make the most $ on the guns---and that they will not melt them down.
Maybe they can sell them to some Mexican drug cartel and the Mexicans can bring them into the US. Should be more profitable than marijuana.
I laugh when I read about them not wanting to sell them because of their high magaine capacities. They said you could fire "dozens" of rounds without reloading. I know the Garand is 8 rounds, so that would be 2/3 of 1 dozen. And, isn't the carbine limited to 15 rounds due to reliability issues? So that is 1-1/4 "dozens."
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I too think S. Korea is smart enough to maybe sit on them for awhile until the US political picture improves............ However, if the current US Goberment dangles MILLIONS of $$$ under their noses to destroy them, then S. Korea has achieved their goal...... BIG $$$ for those Garands and Carbines. I personally as a "business person" would not care what happened to them, as long as I got PAID.
And as a SIDEBAR..... Maybe S. Korea still has MILLIONS of rounds of 30-06 and Carbine surplus ammo to sell.............................
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And as a SIDEBAR..... Maybe S. Korea still has MILLIONS of rounds of 30-06 and Carbine surplus ammo to sell.............................
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The White House referred questions on the issue to the Pentagon, which referred questions to the U.S. Embassy in South Korea, which deferred back to the State Department.
Yeah, that buck started out new but will be destroyed from getting passed around.
Wish someone from the NRA would send them a pic of the typical gun shop with all the high cap rifles and mags. Would be taken as a threat if any of us sent it.
Yeah, that buck started out new but will be destroyed from getting passed around.
Wish someone from the NRA would send them a pic of the typical gun shop with all the high cap rifles and mags. Would be taken as a threat if any of us sent it.
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Typical action for the present administration. They continue to follow the actions of our POS called president---a well documented flip flopper.
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State Department Squirms On Garand And Carbine Imports
Friday, September 03, 2010
A lot of things have changed in the federal government since President Harry S. Truman put his famous "the buck stops here" sign on his desk. This week, Fox News reported that it couldn't get a straight answer from the State Department about its decision in March to disapprove the importation of more than 800,000 M1 Garand rifles and M1 carbines from South Korea.
According to Fox, the State Department claimed that the rifles might be used "for illicit purposes." But when asked to explain, State passed the buck to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which passed it to the Department of Justice, which passed it back to State.
The anti-gun Brady Campaign didn't hesitate to give Fox an answer, however. "Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," the group's Dennis Henigan told reporter Maxim Lott.
Of course, Henigan's response was factually flawed. The M1 Garand does not "take" a "high-capacity" magazine; its magazine is built in, and holds only eight rounds. That's three fewer than the 11 rounds necessary for a magazine to be restricted as a "large capacity" magazine under California's law, which the Brady Campaign calls a "model for the nation," or the federal ban of 1994-2004 (which the group still advocates as a fall-back position in the event that Congress doesn't impose something more severe).
Since sales of imported firearms are subject to the national instant background check, Henigan's position was also hypocritical. To justify not letting the M1s and carbines into the U.S., Henigan essentially took the position that the instant check is not enough to protect public safety. But at other times, Brady takes the position that public safety requires us to impose the same instant checks on sales of firearms by people who are not dealers.
Finally, the "public safety" fear of these guns is irrational. Today, Americans own more Garands and carbines than ever before. We also own more semi-automatic rifles in general than ever before, and more self-defense handguns with standard magazines that hold more than 10 rounds than ever before. Yet despite gun ban groups' predictions, the nation's violent crime rate is at a 35-year low.
Friday, September 03, 2010
A lot of things have changed in the federal government since President Harry S. Truman put his famous "the buck stops here" sign on his desk. This week, Fox News reported that it couldn't get a straight answer from the State Department about its decision in March to disapprove the importation of more than 800,000 M1 Garand rifles and M1 carbines from South Korea.
According to Fox, the State Department claimed that the rifles might be used "for illicit purposes." But when asked to explain, State passed the buck to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which passed it to the Department of Justice, which passed it back to State.
The anti-gun Brady Campaign didn't hesitate to give Fox an answer, however. "Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," the group's Dennis Henigan told reporter Maxim Lott.
Of course, Henigan's response was factually flawed. The M1 Garand does not "take" a "high-capacity" magazine; its magazine is built in, and holds only eight rounds. That's three fewer than the 11 rounds necessary for a magazine to be restricted as a "large capacity" magazine under California's law, which the Brady Campaign calls a "model for the nation," or the federal ban of 1994-2004 (which the group still advocates as a fall-back position in the event that Congress doesn't impose something more severe).
Since sales of imported firearms are subject to the national instant background check, Henigan's position was also hypocritical. To justify not letting the M1s and carbines into the U.S., Henigan essentially took the position that the instant check is not enough to protect public safety. But at other times, Brady takes the position that public safety requires us to impose the same instant checks on sales of firearms by people who are not dealers.
Finally, the "public safety" fear of these guns is irrational. Today, Americans own more Garands and carbines than ever before. We also own more semi-automatic rifles in general than ever before, and more self-defense handguns with standard magazines that hold more than 10 rounds than ever before. Yet despite gun ban groups' predictions, the nation's violent crime rate is at a 35-year low.
Wow.. just wow... I am like all the posters here just floored by idiots making crazy and just insulting stupid statements. I have shot an M1 ... I hate that "push the stack in with the thumb while the top come slamming shut" ... I am sorry but I can Gaurantee.. no low-brain bank robber would be caught trying use one of these. In fact, other than as a collectable... I can't think of any reason anyone would choose to use either of these as a primary weapon. That Brady group just gave us gun owners a lot of room to slam them.
Now that I have pretty much beat these old guns up ... to tell the truth I don't own a long gun bigger than a .22.. and would really love to own an old M1 carbine.. just cause. I would shoot it just so I could clean it and awe at WWII technology done right.
OK... its been 30 minutes or so... This really angers me... So is there any way this group ( if it chose to) could respond to this. Such as send a statement to Fox or a guberment entity?
Now that I have pretty much beat these old guns up ... to tell the truth I don't own a long gun bigger than a .22.. and would really love to own an old M1 carbine.. just cause. I would shoot it just so I could clean it and awe at WWII technology done right.
OK... its been 30 minutes or so... This really angers me... So is there any way this group ( if it chose to) could respond to this. Such as send a statement to Fox or a guberment entity?
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