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Well it's about time for our annual hunting trip out to Wyoming. I've been hunting out there since 1993, I have a few buddies that usually go with me each season. While Wyoming is on a draw for tags, we usually manage to draw deer tags every year and some years if we have time we usually pick up some leftover antelope tags. This year we will be going out mid-Oct hopefully the weather will be favorable for some big bucks. The method we use to hunt these bucks is by getting up high on a hill and comb the terrain with a spotting scope. Most of us are into long range shooting and believe me in WY you can really air out a rifle. Below are some pics of game we have taken in the past decade.
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Man I've been trying to scare up some folks to go Prairie dog hunting in Ks...and I've always dreamed about going Elk hunting...or maybe a big mule deer.....something different from the common run of mill whitetail

Can't ever seem to get any takers....

Nice pics bro.....very nice...post more...and welcome to the forum
 

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Not much into hunting - BUT, I could talk myself into doing something like that!!
 

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Beladran said:
how much $$$ are you looking at for that trip?
Below is a good estimate as far as cost.
Deer tag--$326
Antelope tag--$286
Conservation stamp--$10
Trespass fee--$250(this is the amount we pay to hunt 5000 acres of private property creek bottom)
Hotel--$250
Gas--$400-500
Food--$350-400

The above is a close estimate on a per individual cost. As you can imagine items like food and gas can be hard to predict as far as price goes. As far as the cost to hunt, a trespass fee is what a hunter pays the landowner to hunt on his/her property. While we hunt a lot on public land, we also hunt some private land. Most of the whitetail deer are on private property, due to the fact the creeks all run through private property. Some of the landowners might ask for a much higher price and you might find a few that will allow you to hunt for free. When we put in for deer tags at the first of the year, we always put in for the "region" tag for our first choice and put in for a particular area as our second choice. Simply put if you draw the region tag you get to hunt a much larger area, plus you have the option to take a muley or whitetail with the tag. If you fail to draw the region tag and end up drawing your second choice, the area tag, it will be good only for whitetail and the area that you can hunt is smaller. Just for example an area tag will be about the size of most Mississippi counties. The region tag can be the size of a Mississippi US congressional district.

Antelope are fairly inexpensive to hunt. With Wyoming having the largest antelope herd in the West, antelope can be found in most areas of the state. They will primarily be found on what is called high desert terrain. Most of the land that antelope inhabit will be BLM (Bureau of Land Management), this is land that is open to the public. Actually about 50% of WY is public land; Forest Service, BLM and State owned. If a person is fairly good at reading a map, Wyoming has plenty of areas with good antelope. All you need is a tag and let the fun begin. This is a great hunt for anyone that would like to take their kids on a hunt out West. Antelope can be spotted at all times during the day, therefore the chance of spotting a good buck can come at any time of the day.
 

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msredneck said:
Man I've been trying to scare up some folks to go Prairie dog hunting in Ks...and I've always dreamed about going Elk hunting...or maybe a big mule deer.....something different from the common run of mill whitetail

Can't ever seem to get any takers....

Nice pics bro.....very nice...post more...and welcome to the forum
Here's a few more pics

Antelope taken in WY in the 90's
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Another view of deer and terrain in previous pic. The hill in the background is where the shot was taken from 620 Yds. The deer was bedded down it was 2:30 p.m.
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Deer country
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Sunset in Antelope country
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Nice sunset pics

Rifle is sweet bro :thumbup:

I don't see much for em to eat and them deer mighty big...can't believe they are in the open like that

Man I got the "fever" now....I don't need to see any more pics

:lol3:

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Hunting out West

I have been wanting to go out west without using an outfitter for a while now. Whats the best way to learn about where to hunt and how to work the draw to hunt in the best areas? Have you been to any other states besides WY? When tresspassing do you just go house to house and knock on doors or is there a list of places that allow it? Thanks Rob
 

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Those are some nice deer. If y'all ever want to get some BIG whitetails I'll let y'all go to my land in UPPER Michigan. Look up the Upper Penninsula. I grew up there until I was 18 (yea I'm a yankee) but it much different then you would expect. I own 80 screw with a camp on lake frontage. The deer are big up there, I downed a 14 point non-typical the second week of deer season. Rifle season starts Nov 15th and goes for a few weeks and then it's back to bow. If I know ya I usually let ya hunt in my land for free. I'll even let ya stay at the camp no charge as long as it's in as good of shape when ya left. Google Republic, Michigan. Squaw lake to be exact. Beautiful country up there. Best kept secret to the whole world.
 

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Rbelote,

I had actually gone through the area we now hunt, several years ago when my wife and I were on vacation. She and I both like to go out West, many times have I taken back road excursions and she never fusses. Sometime we would pull over in a good looking place and get the binoculars or a spotting scope to see what we could spot. I also try to keep up with where good animals come from, I knew the region we currently hunt had potential for good muleys and whitetail. After exploring the area personally I knew I wanted to hunt the area if I could draw the tag. When you find a good area, the best person to call is the game warden for that area. The wardens I have contacted with WY G&F have always been more than helpful. If you explain to them what your looking for,(ie. big mule deer)they can give good insight into your chances of finding what your looking for, where to look public vs. private and landowners in that area that allow hunting. I would dare say that wardens from any state that you contact will be just as helpful. I have also received excellent help from G&F personnel in NM. The state biologist for the area can also be of great assistance. You can also attain landowner list from the chamber of commerce that is closest to the area you want to hunt.

As far as the drawing process is concerned, most of the states out West are on the draw. Some states still have some tags that can be purchased over the counter. Also most of the states have some type of point system, therefore when a hunter puts in for a particular tag and fails to draw he/she will earn a point. The more points you have going into the draw the better the odds of drawing. The prime tags are hard to come by for some species and if you ever hope to draw such tags you had better be earning points. I actually put in for several states each year, hoping to one day draw Bighorn sheep, Elk, Mule Deer and Antelope tags in the limited areas. There are states that have areas in which a hunter can draw a tag each year or at least one tag every 3 years. I will admit it takes a LOT of homework as far as researching hunting areas. The only other states that I have hunted so far is NM once for deer and once for elk and AK to hunt dall sheep.

The trespass fee that I mentioned is confusing to us southern hunters. It is simply what the landowner charges the hunter to hunt on his/her land. The particular piece of private land that we hunt cost $250/person and we generally can stay as long as we want. I have seen where a landowner might for instance charge $300 for 3 days of hunting, it can vary from landowner to landowner and in some instances greatly. Most of these landowners are farmers/ranchers just trying to supplement their income. I also go and knock on doors to inquire about a good looking piece of property.

I see that you are still a young man, if you really want to someday hunt certain game animals out West in the prime areas-- start applying. I wish someone had told me the same years ago. I am now 45 and I started putting in for a couple places when I was 35, now I'm building points in AZ, NV, UT, MT and WY. Hopefully someday I will hit the lottery with a good tag for some of the species that I am applying to hunt. Hope this answers your questions.

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Hey Lt. Dan

Thanks for the offer, I'll have to keep that in mind. There is no doubt that the north woods can produce some big whitetails.

By the way, THANKS for your service for our country!

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Thanks Jimbo, it was just a job tho.

Here's a few pics of the land and the lake up north. These were taken this summer. iPhone quality haha



 

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Lt. Dan,

Man that is some beautiful country. You are mighty lucky to have your very own lake resort.
Yea its nice for sure. There is just over 3 acres of lake frontage with the other 77 out back. I just wish I could get up there more often. Its about 1200 miles from here so im lucky to get up there once a year, my dad and sister use it all the time tho. Its nothing to have deer, turkeys, geese, ducks come right through the yard. There's even a few bald eagles out there. It may get a bit cold up there in the winter but yall would be surprised how much you would like it.
 

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Lt.Dan said:
Those are some nice deer. If y'all ever want to get some BIG whitetails I'll let y'all go to my land in UPPER Michigan. Look up the Upper Penninsula. I grew up there until I was 18 (yea I'm a yankee) but it much different then you would expect. I own 80 screw with a camp on lake frontage. The deer are big up there, I downed a 14 point non-typical the second week of deer season. Rifle season starts Nov 15th and goes for a few weeks and then it's back to bow. If I know ya I usually let ya hunt in my land for free. I'll even let ya stay at the camp no charge as long as it's in as good of shape when ya left. Google Republic, Michigan. Squaw lake to be exact. Beautiful country up there. Best kept secret to the whole world.
Looks like I'm gonna have to get to know ya :lol3:


ROOOOAAAD Trip....

Man I gotta quite working so much and have more fun like you guys....No kidding...

Great Thread Jimbo ...enjoying it a lot

If ya'll wanna get up a MSGO trip out west...lets organize one....
 

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Sounds like a good place to someday retire to and who knows maybe become a fishing guide. I'm sure you forgot to mention the biggest reason most people would be drawn to that locale.
Yea im only 26 and I told the wife we are going to retire out there haha. The fishing is nice as well, a lot of perch, rainbow and large and small mouth bass. even a pike once in a while. There is another few big lakes within a reasonable distance so fishing becomes more of an adventure haha. The only downside is that MEAD paper company has been logging out there for years and all of us HATE it. I wouldnt let them set foot on my property for less than $10k, that was the entrance fee. They cut around my property, they had it down with a laser and plat books to get as much as they could, I told them it was $5k A TREE on my land. Needless to say they didnt touch any, I was also right next to them well armed when they were measuring. My dad bought the land back in the 70s for a few hundred dollars and a case a beer and then I bought it from him after my first Iraq deployment and I have no plans to let it go from the family.

It is in the middle of nowhere.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=squaw+lake,+mi&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
 

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Rbelote,

I had actually gone through the area we now hunt, several years ago when my wife and I were on vacation. She and I both like to go out West, many times have I taken back road excursions and she never fusses. Sometime we would pull over in a good looking place and get the binoculars or a spotting scope to see what we could spot. I also try to keep up with where good animals come from, I knew the region we currently hunt had potential for good muleys and whitetail. After exploring the area personally I knew I wanted to hunt the area if I could draw the tag. When you find a good area, the best person to call is the game warden for that area. The wardens I have contacted with WY G&F have always been more than helpful. If you explain to them what your looking for,(ie. big mule deer)they can give good insight into your chances of finding what your looking for, where to look public vs. private and landowners in that area that allow hunting. I would dare say that wardens from any state that you contact will be just as helpful. I have also received excellent help from G&F personnel in NM. The state biologist for the area can also be of great assistance. You can also attain landowner list from the chamber of commerce that is closest to the area you want to hunt.

As far as the drawing process is concerned, most of the states out West are on the draw. Some states still have some tags that can be purchased over the counter. Also most of the states have some type of point system, therefore when a hunter puts in for a particular tag and fails to draw he/she will earn a point. The more points you have going into the draw the better the odds of drawing. The prime tags are hard to come by for some species and if you ever hope to draw such tags you had better be earning points. I actually put in for several states each year, hoping to one day draw Bighorn sheep, Elk, Mule Deer and Antelope tags in the limited areas. There are states that have areas in which a hunter can draw a tag each year or at least one tag every 3 years. I will admit it takes a LOT of homework as far as researching hunting areas. The only other states that I have hunted so far is NM once for deer and once for elk and AK to hunt dall sheep.

The trespass fee that I mentioned is confusing to us southern hunters. It is simply what the landowner charges the hunter to hunt on his/her land. The particular piece of private land that we hunt cost $250/person and we generally can stay as long as we want. I have seen where a landowner might for instance charge $300 for 3 days of hunting, it can vary from landowner to landowner and in some instances greatly. Most of these landowners are farmers/ranchers just trying to supplement their income. I also go and knock on doors to inquire about a good looking piece of property.

I see that you are still a young man, if you really want to someday hunt certain game animals out West in the prime areas-- start applying. I wish someone had told me the same years ago. I am now 45 and I started putting in for a couple places when I was 35, now I'm building points in AZ, NV, UT, MT and WY. Hopefully someday I will hit the lottery with a good tag for some of the species that I am applying to hunt. Hope this answers your questions.

Jim
Thanks for the info Jimbo. I gotta get me a group of guys together to start working the draw. Im talking to a guy now about a Kansas lease, but thats not far enough west.
 
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