Those are some nice deer. If y'all ever want to get some BIG whitetails I'll let y'all go to my land in UPPER Michigan. Look up the Upper Penninsula. I grew up there until I was 18 (yea I'm a yankee) but it much different then you would expect. I own 80 screw with a camp on lake frontage. The deer are big up there, I downed a 14 point non-typical the second week of deer season. Rifle season starts Nov 15th and goes for a few weeks and then it's back to bow. If I know ya I usually let ya hunt in my land for free. I'll even let ya stay at the camp no charge as long as it's in as good of shape when ya left. Google Republic, Michigan. Squaw lake to be exact. Beautiful country up there. Best kept secret to the whole world.