[captain-03]

Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Been reading this thread:

http://www.msgunowners.com/mil-surp-cr-black-powder-f18/are-there-any-blackpowder-shooters-here-no-topics-at-all-t588-20.htm

... and have an interest in a revolver. I owned an 1860 Army replica many, many years ago and actually enjoyed shooting it very much. I think I would like to have another. When I purchased my last one, there were only a couple on the market .. I think I ordered my from Dixie Gun Works by back when ... In looking at what is available now, the choices, selctions, and prices makes my head hurt!!

I would probably like to have another in .44cal - Do not want to invest a whole lot; maybe in the $300 range .... any suggestions???

 

[Doug Bowser]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

There is only one for me. The Uberti Remington 1858 .44 blued revolver with 8" barrel. It is accurate, smooth in the action, reliable and has a dovetailed front sight, so you can adjust the revolver for windage. They also make the front sight, too tall. This is so you can file the front sight to zero for elevation.

Use .454" balls in the Uberti and pull the cylinder pin out and put a drop or two of Murphy's Oil soap[ mixture on the cylinder pin to prevent the cylinder from binding on the BP fouling. 1/4 cup MOS concentrate to a gallon of water for a BP and corrosive priming solvent. Also make some 50-50 beeswax-Crisco BP bullet lube to fill the top of the cylinder over the ball after loading.

I have 5 C&B revolvers and the Uberti Remington is by far the best of the lot.

Have fun,

Doug

 

[quigleysharps4570]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

There is only one for me. The Uberti Remington 1858 .44 blued revolver with 8" barrel

That's where we all differ...myself...like the feel of the 1860's and 61...don't like the 58's.
Never have...never will. The 60's and the 61 have killed many crritters around here...no complaints.

 

[Doug Bowser]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

That's where we all differ...myself...like the feel of the 1860's and 61...don't like the 58's.
Never have...never will. The 60's and the 61 have killed many critters around here...no complaints.[/quote]

I am basically a paper shooter. The sights on the Uberti '58 lend themselves to my kind of shooting better than the Colt C&B sights. Usually the Colt C&B sights shoot high and the rear sight being on the hammer is rudimentary at best.

I do own 3 Colt style repros. 2-1851 Navies and a Colt 3rd Model Dragoon. I cannot precisely hit my targets with them as I can with the 1858 Remmy.

Doug

 

[Xd357]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Sound like you got your work cut out for you cap.

 

[captain-03]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Yea -- guess I need to go somewhere and handle a few ... Are there any places around Jackson hthat has decent selection to look at?

 

[double hunter]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Would you be interested in a 1847 Colt Walker 3rd gen. .44 cal made by Colt, NIB.

 

[btr568]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

if you want to handle a lot,you'll have to go to the Cabelas store in La....if you want the best all around bang for your buck stick with the Umberti's or the peittra's(spelling ain't right)...also you want to read up on the conversion cylinders since you reload,Cap.
If you watch the Cabelas website real regular they do put them on sale a few at a time.....
NOTE###Do not buy the BRASS frames because they CAN NOT be converted
Note###okay I hate to hawk another site on this board but,if you go to Graybeards in the blackpowder sections,Cap.There are a whole bunch of black fans ,who will help you with any question you ask them.
Nathan's best advice is buy stainless :thumbup:

 

[Doug Bowser]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Capt,

Do you want to come to McComb and fire up my .44 Remmie and a Colt style .36 navy? That might give you a better idea of which revolver you want. I have a lot of caps, powder and balls.

Doug

 

[captain-03]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Would you be interested in a 1847 Colt Walker 3rd gen. .44 cal made by Colt, NIB.

... interested; however, I would believe a Colt NIB would be a little too expensive for my purpose of just shooting one every now and then. PM me with your asking price!

 

[captain-03]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Capt,

Do you want to come to McComb and fire up my .44 Remmie and a Colt style .36 navy? That might give you a better idea of which revolver you want. I have a lot of caps, powder and balls.

Doug

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I do get down your way often ... will watch the SW GunClub schedule and if I come down on an event day, I will drop you a note. Yes, I would love to shoot a couple.

 

[Scharfschütze]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Cabela's online had 1858s on sale for around $199 recently, haven't looked in a while

 

[Doug Bowser]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Cabela's online had 1858s on sale for around $199 recently, haven't looked in a while

Remember, DON'T BUY A PIETTA

Doug

 

[sidroski]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Can you change the nipples out to shotgun primers on any of them. I had never heard of it until recently. I know shotgun primers would be a lot cheaper.
Thanks for the heads up on the brass frames BTR, but what would you convert?
What about extra cylinder's - worth it or a waste of money.

 

[btr568]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Sid....never heard of the 209 primers being used,but I'd personally be real iffy about doing it,209's are way hotter than a Number #10 or #11 primer.
Do a search about conversion cylinders,there are 2 companys that make them for the open top colt clones and the Remingtons.They allow you to shoot cowboy loads in your black powder pistol,or you can use your own reloads using mild charges(TrailBoss is made for cowboy loads).
I'm in agreement with Doug,the 1858 Remingtons are the best,better design,better(read) heavier steel,and they are WAYYYYY easier to do a cylinder swap(with any kind of cylinder) than the open tops.The open tops are pretty,they point natural in your hand,but you have to take out a wedge pin,dis-engage the loading lever,then pull the barrel off,swap the cylinder,then put it back together(no wonder da yankees wup'd us,they had better guns,lol)
The all brass frames are prone to stretch under heavy use and time.The all steel are better,the stainless is tops(stainless is stainless even if it is a mild stainless,much more durable).
Having sold all my black pistols during my huge divorce sale years ago,I am starting to look again,so far what I am seeing/finding is as follows.
1)Umberti = best made,but pricey,largest selection thru Cimmaron Arms,Taylors Arms.
2)Peitta =next in line,more affordable,best deals thru Cabela's when on sale(remember STAINLESS).
3)Tradtions =these are bottom of the line.I have handled and shot one,didn't care for it at all.Academy,Bass Pro and some others sell these,good for general plinking and used sparingly.
All these clones are pretty much over-bored,when you look up the conversion cylinders,you'll see they make a 45Colt,45 Schofield for the 44 cal.....A 38 Colt for the 36 caliber.....31 cal can use either a Double or Thriple 00 buckshot bb in a pinch(can't remeber off the top of my head,right now)
If you thinking about taking the plunge into these,you might want to hurry up a little,before Obama,you could get a 58'Remington in stainless with a 5 1/2 barrel for for under $300 including shipping to your door.Now the price has gone up some,remeber black powder firearms have no Federal paper trail on them,for now.

 

[Doug Bowser]

Another reason not to buy a brass framed C&B revolver

Some of the cheaper Brass framed C&B revolvers stretch the frame and become unserviceable. I have a Griswold and Gunnison REB revolver and it has done well. It is a Navy Arms brand. Some of the other brands do not hold up very well. I have a Euroarms .44 1851 Navy w/brass frame and it is not the best. I also have a Pietta 1858 Brass framed Remmie. This revolver is better because the frame is solid and the barrel is screwed into it.

Doug

 

[sidroski]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Thanks Doug. Any place around Jackson that sells them? I don't want to go fondle their guns and then go buy it off the internet, feel like I'm cheating them. I think I will get the blue steel Umberti when I get a little extra money (just bought a shotgun).

 

[Xd357]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Sid try basspro.

 

[sidroski]

Re: Black Powder Revolver - What to Purchase?

Thanks, I will.

 

[TankerHC]

1851 Confederate Navy Colt .44 Cal.

In February I purchased an 1851 Brass Frame Confederate Navy Colt in .44 Cal. for 119 dollars from Cabelas. It came with a wooden case with velvet blue lining. They still have them for $149.00.