ok guys, sill no pics but here is the info on the two fixed blade black jacks i have, 1st knife, has sheath, no box, never been sharpened, deer horn style handle, made in usa in effingham il. has the knive through the ace of spades on the logo on the other side of the blade, it also says trail guide on the blade last bit of info, it shows to have a-2 tool steel on the blade..... 2nd knife- in the box, all papers, black finger groove handle, has black eagle brnd sheath, this knife has the effingham il. stamp on it, and also says blackjak classic bladeson the other side of the blade it says h.a.l.o. with the letter i underneath that, aboe thst stamp is the knife through the ace os spades, with what looks to be a diamond above that, surrounded bytwo wings, i am trying to get pics coming, this is all i have for now, any info is appreciated, thanks, jason