[Doug Bowser]

I use a S&W K38 for Bullseye pistol shooting. All of this shooting is done with one hand. Using the revolver double action is not an option. The hammer has to be cocked for each shot to get any accuracy out of the revolver. The timed foire stage is not difficult to make the time in. It is 20 seconds for 5 shots. The sticky wicket is rapid fire. It is 5 shots in 10 seconds. The trick in shooting the revoplver in Bullseye is have your revolver ready and your sightsd lined up, then you break the shot when the trargets turn or when the whistle blows. THis technique gives you more time. The 4 remainung shots are fired in 9.5 to 10 seconds instead of 5 shots in 10 seconds.

WE shoot a monthlyNRA Bullseye Pistol League in McComb. I invite any of you to attend. It is really challenging. For more info call 601-341-8797,

Doug Bowser

 

[Rbelote]

I wish I had to time to attend more of what SWCG has to offer. Maybe before year end my schedule will get much lighter.

DOug will actually teach as well, which is a plus some older/wiser guys get tight lipped at matches. THerefore, I reccomend that everyone on the forums (that are close to Mccomb) to make the drive and shoot a match.

 

[Guest]

Doug, I used to go to Jim Mcanally's range in Gulfport a lot to shoot 3-gun outdoor pistol. There was one guy who shot a wheel gun for all three stages. He was good at getting off all his shots. He shot in the expert class with me. It was good competetion and between the two of us, we had a lot of "skidders". I shot my auto's.

 

[Doug Bowser]

We are shooting Bullseye in McComb every month. I think the guy at McNally's shoots was Jim Meyers. A big tall feller.

I shot the .38 S&W Model 14 in the CF event.

Doug

 

[Guest]

Doug - You're right, it was Jim. He was one of those you could depend on to be at the match. Thems wuz the good-ol-days of pistol shooting for me.

 

[Doug Bowser]

Doug - You're right, it was Jim. He was one of those you could depend on to be at the match. Thems wuz the good-ol-days of pistol shooting for me.

I am sorry to say Jim passed about 2 years ago. Call me sometime and come shoot with us.

601-341-8797

 

[Guest]

Sorry to hear about Jim. He was an OK guy. Would love to be able to shoot 3-gun matches again but I have Carpal Tunnel syndrome along with Rheumatoid Arthritis very bad in my right arm and moderately bad in my left. I thought that I could pick up my pistols and pick up where I left off but that's not the case. Now I can only shoot accurately using two hand hold and even at that I can't hold up for a full match. I do appreciate the invite though. I put your number in my address book and I will call you.

 

[swede62]

Anyone who hasen't tryed this discipline owes it to themselves to try. My father who is in his 70's now can still out shoot me on many occasions using his discipline from his Bullseye days. Breathing, trigger control, sight alignment, and breaking the shot at precisely the right moment all good for basic shooting no matter what other shooting competition venue you might shoot in as well. A lot of non gun Law Enforcement types could benefit from some good bullseye shooting in addition to their other training.

 

[Rbelote]

Swede speaks the truth.

 

[Doug Bowser]

There was an old Border Patrolman named Bill Jordan (author of "No Second Place Winner") that said a person wanting to be a combat pistol shot should take up Bullseye Pistol shooting for at least 3 years before competing in combat pistol matches.

A person prepared to shoot in combat pistol situations should learn how to shoot strong hand only, weak hand only and two handed. What if a wound in a gunfight injures an arm or a hand. Those that shoot exclusively with two hands would be SOL.

Doug

 

[swede62]

There was an old Border Patrolman named Bill Jordan (author of "No Second Place Winner") that said a person wanting to be a combat pistol shot should take up Bullseye Pistol shooting for at least 3 years before competing in combat pistol matches.

A person prepared to shoot in combat pistopl situations should learn how to shoot strong hand only, weak hand only and two handed. What if a wound in a gunfight injures an arm or a hand. Those that shoot exclusively with two hands would be SOL.

Doug

I haven't read his book, but have heard exerts from it. He was one heck of a shooter. I absolutely agree that you should learn how to shoot with strong hand, weak handed, and both hands. I'll take that another step further you should also learn how to shoot from awkward positions as well. You might be knocked down on your back, or on your side, etc... When it's all said and done if you can't hold steady and break the shot on target it won't matter.

 

[Don Goodman]

Doug Bowser said "There was an old Border Patrolman named Bill Jordan (author of "No Second Place Winner")"

I know this is an old thread, but I just have to comment. First, Bill would appreciate being referred to as an "old Border Patrolman." Let's see, he was a retried decorated Marine Brigade Level Officer (full colonel, if I recall correctly), a Border Patrol officer/agent, a member of the most famous pistol shooting team ever seen, a national spokesman/administrator for the NRA, the designer of the Border Patrol holster and River trouser/holster belt, the father of the S&W Model 19, a writer and columnist, a proud LSU fan, and one could go on, BUT, I think he would appreciate being called an "old Border Patrolman." Last time I saw him he was giving a demonstration at LSU to students and faculty of how fast he could draw and shoot, plus regaling all with timeless stories from the border. RIP Bill.

 

[CajunBP]

Doug Bowser said "There was an old Border Patrolman named Bill Jordan (author of "No Second Place Winner")"

I know this is an old thread, but I just have to comment. First, Bill would appreciate being referred to as an "old Border Patrolman." Let's see, he was a retried decorated Marine Brigade Level Officer (full colonel, if I recall correctly), a Border Patrol officer/agent, a member of the most famous pistol shooting team ever seen, a national spokesman/administrator for the NRA, the designer of the Border Patrol holster and River trouser/holster belt, the father of the S&W Model 19, a writer and columnist, a proud LSU fan, and one could go on, BUT, I think he would appreciate being called an "old Border Patrolman." Last time I saw him he was giving a demonstration at LSU to students and faculty of how fast he could draw and shoot, plus regaling all with timeless stories from the border. RIP Bill.

He was from Cheneyville, Louisiana. You can even find an old video of him competing on Who's Line is it Anway? At least I think that was the show. He and two other contestants were claiming to be Bill Jordan. When he joined the Patrol he would have been a "Patrol Inspector" until the the title was changed to Border Patrol Agent in the mid-seventies.
I have a couple of old friends who worked with him in Chula Vista, CA back in the day, of course they were beginning their careers and he was finishing up. They all talked about his speed and hand size.

 

[Vick]

Bill did have a couple of hams hanging from his arms! A M-19 in his hand looked about like a J-frame in my hand! He was quite the gentleman and always happy to spend a little time talking with young folks like me at the gun shows; initially got me interested in combat competition, which I shot in one form or another for many years when I was young and quick and could see my sights!:lol4:

 

[patchz]

When I started out on the LPD pistol team, all we shot was Bullseye, slow fire at 25 yards. It wasn't long before we started shooting PPC though and I liked it much better. But I have shot a few Bullseye matches with a K-38, though I preferred a model 52 Smith.

Jim Meyers was a close friend and I miss him. Not only was he a good shot, he was a first rate machinist and gunsmith. He was also one of the most knowledgeable men I've ever known.

 

[Twang]

I have a S&W Model of 1955 (pre-model 25), an K-38 Target Masterpiece, and a mid-1950's Ruger semi-auto .22 LR pistol. Would those be suitable (eligible) for trying my hand at Bullseye?

 

[Don Goodman]

Unless there's been changes I'm not aware of TwangBanger, you should be good to go. Bullseye or 2700 (max possible score) shooting is broken down into essentially 3 sub matches: .22 rimfire, centerfire, .45acp. After a year or 2 of shooting 2700s around the country, some of us got lazy and shot our 45's in the centerfire match - pros and cons to that as you can imagine, bigger bullet, bigger recoil.

 

[cottonmouth]

Y'all going to make me get my K38 out and soot it up!

J.B.

 

[Don Goodman]

I have a S&W Model of 1955 (pre-model 25), an K-38 Target Masterpiece, and a mid-1950's Ruger semi-auto .22 LR pistol. Would those be suitable (eligible) for trying my hand at Bullseye?

Those guns will get you started; next is ammo. Not counting alibis, you will need 270 rounds of ammo; 90 for each match. The course of fire consists of 3 separate 900 (90 shots) matches. For each gun or 900 match you will shoot:
Slow fire course: 2 strings, 10 shots each, at 50 yards - 10 minutes for each string;
National Match Course:
1 10 shot slow fire at 50 yards within 10 mins;
2 5 shot strings timed fire at 25 yards - 20 secs per string
2 5 shot strings rapid fire at 25 yards - 10 secs per string
Timed fire course: 4 5 shot strings at 25 yards - 20 secs per string
Rpaid fire course: 4 5 shot strings at 25 yards - 10 secs per string

Alibis are redos and you'll probably have several, so I usually counted on at least 100 rounds per gun. All shooting is done standing with a single-handed grip. We used to joke that anyone could shoot 2 handed, it took a pistolero to shoot Bullseye. A good sized match will go into the late afternoon so bring lunch and plenty of water.

You'll also want a good spotting scope. If you are serious I might be able to find one of my pistol boxes.

 

[rigrat]

When I started out on the LPD pistol team, all we shot was Bullseye, slow fire at 25 yards. It wasn't long before we started shooting PPC though and I liked it much better. But I have shot a few Bullseye matches with a K-38, though I preferred a model 52 Smith.

Jim Meyers was a close friend and I miss him. Not only was he a good shot, he was a first rate machinist and gunsmith. He was also one of the most knowledgeable men I've ever known.

I always wanted a PPC revolver. But I would love to have a 4" version.

Something like this......