Yes personal experience with the high-end Lyman .. Do not buy it. After several hundred 223s the collet would not hold ... then tried some .308 and same thing happened. Called Lyman and spoke wiht a tech -- told me I needed to adjust it and find the "sweet" spot .. I tried and tried ... sent it back on my dime and it finally was returned about 3 weeks later missing all of the pilots. Tried and tried to get though to Lyman by phone -- after 3 days finally got someone to answer. Took them another 2 weeks to send the pilots back to me. Tried the setup again and again experienced the same problem -- collets not holding .... put it back in the box and threw it into the attic ... went a bought the $5.00 Lee trimmers -- they actually work great. Of course, I am not reloading for benchrest accuracy, just trim as a safety factor ... They are caliber specific and cheap and work ...MrClean said: