[mdp75]

emergency response to our matches.

While we strive to be as safe as humanly possible an accident can happen. even if it is a non GSW accident. turned ankles severe cuts ect. But in the event of a GSW what measures are in place to to handle the situation. I have only attend two local matches but at neither of these matches was an EMR plan presented. Who is designated as first responders? who has a trauma kit with pressure bandages and required tools needed to provide first aid for a GSW while awaiting EMS?
If this is something that has not been discussed I think it should be. I am sure it is my back ground in nursing and working in trauma centers during my clinical rotations but it would seem to me if this has not been addressed it needs to be.
For our local clubs I would be happy to draw up a response plan for our local matches. I can assure you, as we have had to call ems several times to Port Bienville and at rattle snake hills in pville the response times have been over 30 min in just about every case.
I have several close friends with the Ms highway patrol and Hancock county SO that can be alerted and be near by during our matches in pearlington ect...

Mat

 

[chbrow10]

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An excellent question, Mat. I am not aware of such a plan.

 

[nonnieselman]

Re: emergency response to our matches.

I keep a first aid kit in my truck and one in my shooting bag. But never had to deal with anything close to a GSW, just the usual cuts, and puncture wounds from somewhat small objects like nails and screwdrivers.
I think a specific kit for a GSW is a good idea. You know of a suitable kit?

 

[mdp75]

Re: emergency response to our matches.

This would be a bare minimum kit
Practical trauma

This is more like what I have
guardian kit

also a very good pressure bandage can be made from a large maxi pad and tape in a pinch. every see the tampons in the nose trick for a blooded nose ? works like a charm

 

[chbrow10]

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I just ordered the Practical Trauma kit to go in the gun bag. Mat, maybe next I see you, you can walk me through its contents? Or is everything I need to know in the police car backseat scene from the movie "shooter"? j/k

 

[mdp75]

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lol Pretty much!!!! cept they dont tell you quickclot + water = BURN YOUR SKIN!!! learned that the hard way even though i was told and they didnt mention in the back seat scene in shooter either or black hawk down.

but yeah chris i will show you how to use everything in the kit its pretty straight forward. there are some some major do's and donts but outside of that its basicly cut stick hold.

 

[spanky]

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I keep an ifak on my range bag. I have no clue how to use most of it's contents but it's there and hopefully someone knows how. If not, well, I won't be much worse off than if it wasn't there.

 

[oneadam12]

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cept they dont tell you quickclot + water = BURN YOUR SKIN!!! learned that the hard way even though i was told and they didnt mention in the back seat scene in shooter either or black hawk down.

+1 Learned about this on a bad cut to the hand, but very effective stuff.

 

[msredneck]

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Interesting Thread...kinda got me thinking...if we had an Oh No at Magnolia in a USPSA match its a pretty short run to Jackson, but at Bogue Chitto F class match I'd say it could be big trouble...Guess the Bogue Chitto FD would get there eventually

 

[TheGreatGonzo]

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My agency has always required us to have an Emergency Action Plan in place at every range (I am a Senior Firearms Instructor) and to brief all shooters on the essential parts of the plan (location of trauma kit; which vehicle is designated the "emergency transport vehicle" and the "escort vehicle"; location of nearest hospital with trauma center; etc). So, for years, we did it because we "had to". It was just another box to be checked off during range prep. Then, 3 years ago, I had a shooter suffer a massive heart attack on the range. Let me tell you something: When you need that Emergency Action Plan, you need it. I'm glad we had one and, for me, it was a lesson learned. I now realize just what an important part of our range operations it is.
Gonzo

 

[Cliff Cargill]

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I agree with Gonzo. This is covered in the NRA Range Safety Officer course. Also, little things like having a person go up to the main road to wave in EMTs. As we all know, shooting ranges can be hard to spot if you don't know where one is. The minutes that are saved by doing something as simple as this may mean life or death.

 

[ScottW]

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It's 13 Interstate miles to UMC Trauma Center, more like 15 from Magnolia to the UMC Doors. With little traffic that is a 20 minute minimum IF you left immediately and did not wait for an ambulance. I've been in law enforcement almost 21 years, lost the partner I was riding with and knew 5 others who were shot and killed as well as others who were shot and lived. It's a good idea to know where UMC Trauma Center is located, but shooting in a rural area has inherent dangers that must be understood. Rifle and shotgun wounds are bad no matter what is destroyed, handgun rounds are more like being stabbed with an object the same diameter as the projectile, ie no hydrostatic shock as seen with high velocity rifle rounds.
I've known of people shot 1 inch below their bulletproof vest, severing the femoral artery who didn't last 30 seconds, and I have walked into the ER to see a friend who was shot twice and the first thing he said was he wouldn't be able to meet me in the mornng as scheduled.
When it's your time, it's your time, and all the prepping in the world won't bring you back. That's why more firearm owners should listen and learn about safety, primarily do not point a firearm at anything you do not wish to destroy. A Missouri State Police sniper had a .308 that when loaded, would go off on it's on, due to a build up of WD-40 on the internal parts causing the internal parts to slip and the firearm to fire. The best of plans will run afoul in an emergency but a quick call to 911 with good directions for an EMT team to follow, are a good start. I always carry a first aid kit with me in each vehicle and another in my small backpack that is in the vehicle, and have had basic first aid training. Best thing is to avoid a gunshot wound at all costs, if it happens, deal with it expeditiously but understand you can't unring the bell.

 

[dwarren9]

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well said when its your time its your time

 

[jdphotoguy]

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Outstanding information.

I have limited knowledge of first aid, but I'd like to change that, as I'd hate to unable to help someone when they needed it most. Any suggestions on where to get more then just basic first aid training, I live in Brandon?

 

[RKpianoman]

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Red Cross and American Heart Assn offer CPR and first aid courses; some local fire dept's offer courses from time to time (however, those are usually from vol. FD's to their volunteers). EMT-B is a 1 semester course offered at most community colleges as a night course, and might be worth looking in to.

 

[jdphotoguy]

Re: emergency response to our matches.

Red Cross and American Heart Assn offer CPR and first aid courses; some local fire dept's offer courses from time to time (however, those are usually from vol. FD's to their volunteers). EMT-B is a 1 semester course offered at most community colleges as a night course, and might be worth looking in to.

Thanks, I'll take a look into those.

 

[rsm688]

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I'm an EMR but cant afford to drive back to Jackson for the meets though, I plan on attending some soon though and always have my gear in my truck :bigtu: