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I was looking through the casting party pics and was just wondering, how do you guys pick out the zinc? I looked at each of my wheel weights and gave them a squeeze with pliers. Some had ZN stamped on them, some didn't.

Is there an easier/quicker way?
 

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For us beginners, are there any meters out there, I'm sure there's a hillbilly way of doing it though. What's the "thud" test. Have only been to the one boolit party, had other commitments or I would have loved to come. Wanted to learn some more to reinforce what the guys taught me at the first one.
 

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Steel WWs really "ring" when dropped on a concrete slab. It was those pesky zinc WWs that gave us trouble. Mainly smaller zinc WWs.

The scratch test worked well, but was time consuming............

It is easier to just PAY ATTENTION to what you are doing...... (Note to self...).


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Of course the best way is to identify it prior to putting anything in the pot; however, as noted above, this is not as easy as it sounds and takes a lot of time. The "drop" test works but it is most effective on LARGE weights. When you get to the smaller ones, the spring steel clip get in the way and often hits the concrete surface giving you a false sound. Some folks use a set of metal shears and give each weight a cut -- those cut easy are lead and those that do not are zinc -- those that want cut at all are steel.

Probably the most productive way is to let them float to the top in your melt. However, there are a couple tricks you need to be familiar with in doing this. SAFETY -- your weights must be DRY with NO moisture on them.

Most people put the weights in their pot and turn the heat all the way up until they begin to melt. Nothing wrong with this except there may be some zinc in those weights and they just got melted! I would suggest you identify some lead weights either by using the drop test or by cutting into them -- place them in your post and being to a melt. Once melted, turn the heat down. A temp gauge comes in handy here ... let the melt cool down to around 600-650 and then start adding additional unsorted DRY weights a few at time. Keep the temp below 700 and the zinc will not melt. It along with the steel will float to the top along with the clips and other trash.

Again, SAFETY -- wear full body protection (gloves, safety glasses, long sleeves, long pants that cover the top of your shoes/boots) when adding anything to a pot of molten lead. The smallest amount of moisture that gets below the surface of the lead will announce the "tinsel fairy" and she can be unforgiving ...

This takes a little more time to complete your melt but it should be zinc free.

Do not worry about a little zinc. Zinc ain't that bad unless you get a lot of it in your mix. A little will hurt nothing. I remember once (first started casting) I was melting some weights and had a bunch that just would not melt. I cursed for a moment or two and then turned the heat all the way up saying "I'll get these da,,, things melted!" and I did ... zinc!! Never could get this batch of lead to make really good boolits. Later I took the remainder of the batch and added it to other batches when I melted. I diluted the zinc and it seemed to cast better after that.

What I am seeing lately in the wheel weights is a lot of iron weights. These want present a problem except you wish they were lead!!

Now go out and cast some boolits!!
 

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Do I recall this correctly: the clips on lead weights are molded in, the clips on steel weights are riveted? What about the zinc ones?
 

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shoeshooter said:
Do I recall this correctly: the clips on lead weights are molded in, the clips on steel weights are riveted? What about the zinc ones?
They come in all shapes, sizes, and configurations. Most of the riveted are either iron or zinc. However, you can have iron or zinc that have no rivets and are molded in .... However, I do not ever remember seeing a lead weight which was riveted ....
 

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Only the top weight is lead. I got lucky in that this is all I found in my last 5 gal bucket. I use the pliers test and it takes forever. Especially the last time I made a run on the tire shops and ended up with 16 five gallon buckets full of weights.
 

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16 - 5gal buckets of WWs.............. You SCORED big time (if the price was right)................

I have noticed that zinc and steel WWs seem to be painted/coated more often than lead WWs.

I do think that smelting current WWs is going to take MUCH MORE CARE than the olden days........ And.... what you pay for a bucket of current WWs has to factor in the "zinc & steel" loses..............

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I told the guy at the shop to make it worth my time and I'd make it worth his. When I stopped by a week later he had 16 buckets gathered up. I am new to casting and it was my first attempt at getting WW's. He nearly broke my arm when I pulled out a $100 bill. He said he was expecting to get $20. I really need to swing by again. Most everything I have cast recently has been 325's for the 45 and 400's for the 480 and 475's
 
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