[Bobo]

We have a friend who is in law enforcement. She shoots a glock 9mm I am not sure of the model. She has recently had to qualify but is shooting real erratic. I believe it is her gun. What issues might she have with this weapon to all of a sudden start shooting like that?

 

[blade49]

Well, if you're sure you can blame the weapon then have it checked out by a gunsmith. But it could be worn out parts like the barrel, if the weapon is not relatively new. Honestly I think its gonna be the her not the weapon, typically thats where the problem is, as long as its in proper working condition. Ive been shooting most of my life and work on my own weapons. Taught lots of people to shoot the way I learned, the military way. If you get the weapon checked out and nothings wrong then its probably in her mechanics as she shoots. It could even be as simple as the Glock doesnt fit her hand well and she has trouble handling it. Hope this helps...

 

[captain-03]

Has she shoot well with this particular weapon before? If the weapon is new to her; then that is probably the issue .... I have never had a Glock to just go bad and start shooting erratic .. the first thing I would look at is ammo choice -- same ammo? Check it for barrel obstruction/build-up and then look at the sights ... Erratic does not tell me much ... is it holding a decent group? maybe ammo choice??

 

[Bobo]

She has used this weapon before and has done fine with it. I just has me wondering to shoot that well and then not. She has also had some other friends shoot it and it did not shoot well with them either. Do the barrels on some of these tend to foul? Her boss shot at a target 5' from him and told her there was nothing wrong with it. Just my opinion but 5' to 25' is a huge difference.

 

[msredneck]

Hate to say it...but it probably aint the gun

Is this a Model 17, 19, or 26...

First....clean the barrel....I've shot as many as a 1000 rds of 9mm out of mine without a cleaning with no effect on accuracy. Rear sight alignment might be an issue I guess....But 99 out of a 100 times...when I got issues....its me me me me.....

Take her to the range and work with her slowly at about 7 yards and gradually move back....Don't just start shooting at 25 yards...u might not figure out the issue

I'd take a 357 mag revolver with me as well as shoot 38's in it...make her shoot it double action only....

It may take a couple hundred rounds and a few hours to figure out the deal...

The only real issue I have with a Glock is they are a tad big for my hands....

U did not say which Gen this Glock was

Try a couple different brands of ammo...all my Glocks like cheap Winchester White Box 115 FMJ just fine...though they are a little "hot"

Its hard to do this type of problem determination on the web :lol4:

Approach the issue as having fun at the range...not Oh my..."I've got this problem" or its my gun....Like Yogi Berra said... 90% of the game is half mental...

 

[GunOneDown]

ERRATIC doesn't explain what the problem is.
Grouping? FTE or FTF ?
Need more info. Not even going to guess without more info as to what it/she is experiencing.

 

[Bobo]

Thanks all I have a small 357 that I can let her shoot. I will try and get the exact info as I realize all of it matters. If I can't get to the bottom of it here it will not get figured out as there is to much experiance on this forum. I hold alot of faith in my fellow shooters. I will get back to all with the whole deal.

 

[msredneck]

I'm not sure a small 357 revo is a good choice...its gonna hurt like hell...

beg borrow or steal a medium frame S&W revolver like a Model 19 or 686 4 inch barrel...shoot wus 38's in it and go slow... double action mode

Lots of stuff could be wrong....flintching is the first thing to check for and you can check for that pretty fast by loading dummy rds in either the Glock or a Revo...

Good Luck and report back in

 

[Bobo]

Ok all seems like her boss finally listened to her and it is something with the sights. I really didn't get much out of it as she was talking to the wife. So from what I understand they are going to do something to fix her sights. Now I don't know if that means rear which would be my guess or front. After all the shooting she has done she is a pretty good shooter thats whay I was against the idea of her not doing something right from the start. Thanks for all the posts . You learn alot each time a problem pops up like this and can save it to use later. Thanks again to all in this forum for your help.

 

[GunOneDown]

if it's sight related, probably a loose front on the Glock. LOCK-TITE that dude down and it'll be fixed. I've seen this happen before with mostly NITE-Sights not getting Loc-Tite on them and just coming loose. BigSig had this happen not long ago on one of his.

 

[Bobo]

Thanks I think since it's issued to them the Department fixes them

 

[msredneck]

Yeah its a pretty well established fact that stock front and rear sights on Glocks are the "weak link" on the guns...all of mine get replaced as soon as I get one

But again...you said erratic....If the sight is off...then it would always be off in theory

I still say there's more going on...Unless sight is moving around each time it gets holstered/unholstered on a draw

Where's our resident firearms training instructor when you need him....

Help!

:lol:

 

[rsm688]

Yeah its a pretty well established fact that stock front and rear sights on Glocks are the "weak link" on the guns...all of mine get replaced as soon as I get one

But again...you said erratic....If the sight is off...then it would always be off in theory

I still say there's more going on...Unless sight is moving around each time it gets holstered/unholstered on a draw

Where's our resident firearms training instructor when you need him....

Help!

:lol:

Ill agree with that, I replace all my Glock sights the second I bring a new one home. Even with factory sights I highly doubt that it is her problem. Of course they get loose but it sits in a recessed groove so it cant shift left or right unless it lifts up out of the slot, and if that happened she would definately notice it.

If her rear sight was not aligned correctly her groups would not be effected, it would just be the location of the groups that were off.

Unless it is a VERY used and abused gun with a VERY high round count I doubt it is the gun. I have a G17 that has been through hell and back and has over 25k rounds through it (was given to me by a family friend who used it for competition shooting) and I can still put up nice groups on the paper. Why don't you shoot it for her and see if it groups fine in your hands? Or either let her shoot another Glock and see if the groups look the same way.

It definately sounds like a user problem, not a gun problem. I know some guys who have been shooting for longer than I have been alive (I'm 21) and still can't shoot worth a crap, technique is very important and even a little minor flinching, eyes closing, etc. can have a huge effect on her groups.




-spencer-

 

[rsm688]

The only real issue I have with a Glock is they are a tad big for my hands....

U

I have no problem at all with the size of the Glock with my hands but I got bored one day and did a grip reduction, full stipling, magwell cut outs, and rounded front trigger guard on my G19 that I carry and it feels AMAZING. It's not very hard to do, just time consuming.


-spencer-

 

[Cliff Cargill]

Yeah its a pretty well established fact that stock front and rear sights on Glocks are the "weak link" on the guns...all of mine get replaced as soon as I get one

But again...you said erratic....If the sight is off...then it would always be off in theory

I still say there's more going on...Unless sight is moving around each time it gets holstered/unholstered on a draw

Where's our resident firearms training instructor when you need him....

Help!

:lol:

If I had the gun in my hands, it would take 6 rounds to see what it was doing.

Usually, it's the shooter.

Remember:

Stance

Grip

Sight Alignment

Trigger Control

It's almost never the gun.