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Just 37% of U.S. High School Seniors Prepared for College Math and Reading

Discussion in 'Press Talk' started by NRA_guy, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. NRA_guy

    NRA_guy Distinguished Poster

    This news comes as no surprise to those of us who have children or grandchildren in school.

    Some could see race as a factor.

    I predict that they will simply stop testing kids.

    Common Core should fix the problem.

    And we need to pay existing teachers more and hire some more teachers' assistants. :(

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    Only 37% of American 12th-graders were academically prepared for college math and reading in 2015, a slight dip from two years earlier, according to test scores released Wednesday.

    The National Assessment of Educational Progress, also known as the “Nation’s Report Card,” said that share was down from an estimated 39% in math and 38% in reading in 2013.

    Educators and policy makers have long lamented that many seniors get diplomas even though they aren’t ready for college, careers or the military. Those who go to college often burn through financial aid or build debt while taking remedial classes that don’t earn credits toward a degree.

    Bill Bushaw, executive director of the National Assessment Governing Board, which oversees the test, said the board was pleased that high school graduation rates were rising, but disappointed in the lack of progress in boosting students’ skills and knowledge.

    “These numbers aren’t going the way we want,” he said. “We just have to redouble our efforts to prepare our students to close opportunity gaps.”

    At the time of the assessment, 42% of the test-takers said they had been accepted into a four-year college. The test is taken by a representative sample of seniors nationwide.

    The biggest problems came at the bottom, with growth in the share of students deemed “below basic” in their abilities. In math, 38% of students were in that group in 2015, compared with 35% two years earlier. In reading, 28% of students were “below basic,” compared with 25%.

    Peggy Carr, acting commissioner of the National Center for Education Statistics, which conducts the test, said officials couldn’t tie changes in scores to any particular education policies but demographic shifts may play a role. The dropout rate has improved for every racial and ethnic group, she said, so some struggling students who wouldn’t have taken the test in the past did so last year.

    In reading, the average score of 287 out of 500 points was about flat from two years earlier, but down significantly from 292 in 1992, when the test was first given. Students who reported reading for fun every day or nearly that often tended to score higher.

    In reading, “The students at the top of the distribution are going up and the students at the bottom of the distribution are going down,” said Ms. Carr. “There is a widening of the gap between higher and lower-ability students.”

    In reading, 49% of Asian students performed at or above proficiency last year. So did 46% of white students, 25% of Hispanic students and 17% of black students.

    In math, the average score of 152 out of 300 points was one point lower than in 2013. A significant drop in math scores was seen among students whose parents didn’t finish high school.

    “In math, the decline is real,” Ms. Carr said. “Students at the lower end are getting worse.”


    English-language learners fared better than previously, she said, mostly because of gains among Asian students.

    In math, 47% of Asian students performed at or above proficiency. So did 32% of white students, 12% of Hispanic students and 7% of black students.

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    Just 37% of U.S. High School Seniors Prepared for College Math and Reading, Test Shows
     
  2. fordpkup

    fordpkup Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    Get back to 3 r's.
     
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  3. DoyleAlley

    DoyleAlley Distinguished Poster

    One of the problems with American education is the mistaken thought that all kids are capable of becoming college bound. The more successful countries take a different approach. They have genuine non-college trade programs that prepare students for blue-collar work - unlike most of our vocational programs which are just catch-alls for dropouts, criminals, and druggies. Kids who would not be likely to succeed at college are "tracked" into those programs instead of their last 2 years of college-prep high school.
     
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  4. NRA_guy

    NRA_guy Distinguished Poster

    That would be challenged by the Justice Department and tossed out by the courts as soon as the percentage of blacks in those classes exceeded the percent of blacks in the surrounding area.
     
  5. tWillis

    tWillis Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    teach the 3r's and history. Less Govt. involvement.
     
  6. Caleb C

    Caleb C Distinguished Poster

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    This is what happens when a society buys into the theory that its the state's responsibility to educate their children. I wouldn't expect this problem to get any better.
     
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  7. mascott

    mascott Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    Our government is sending them to community organizational facilities(college) !
     
  8. sand_man

    sand_man Grouchy Old Fart MSGO Supporter

    I worked one year as a TA in our middle school. I saw a lot of the problems in our schools. The main problem starts at home where a lot of kids have no discipline, no motivation to improve themselves, or no incentive to learn. One seventh grade boy was very proud of his police ankle monitor! Until parents change and decide to be in charge at home we will see the decline of our schools increase!
     
  9. CajunBP

    CajunBP Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    Agreed...quit doing social experiments and political correctness lessons and get back to core education. Apparently everyone now gets a trophy in education as well.
     
  10. maxhush

    maxhush Distinguished Poster

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    As Doyle says, the other thing is that maybe there are a lot going to college that shouldn't be. IMHO the current liberal inspired trend to tell all high schoolers they need to go to college is just addle pated.
     
  11. fordpkup

    fordpkup Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    My nephew graduates this year. He is an Honor role student but has taken shop where they worked on cars. He is going to a Jr collage to study mechanics. I tried to get him to go to Nashville to study diesel mechanics. My sister wants him close to home. He is a spoiled little brat anyway. 18 years old and will throw a fit like a 3 year old. I make my sister mad cause I call him a big Puzzy.
     
  12. bar306

    bar306 Distinguished Poster

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    Interesting they are making a comparison of secondary education to college level. Both are in serious trouble. Both still begging for more and more money.
     
  13. Caleb C

    Caleb C Distinguished Poster

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    Oddly enough, lack of money has never been the problem.
     
  14. Blondie70

    Blondie70 Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

    Too much money in it. One can get grants of tax payers' money to go to college even tho they are ditch digger material. College is a waste of our money for a lot of people going .
    The high schools are being used to simply keep some youths off the street. They don't need to be there screwing it up for the capable students. Nobody wants to point out that some people are simply stupid.
     
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  15. phillipd

    phillipd Distinguished Poster MSGO Supporter

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    Who needs an education when you can sit at home and make babies and get a check? I have 2 degrees and working on a third and I'm in worse shape than the idiots I take care of every day.
     
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  16. rigrat

    rigrat Semper Fi

    Lets just set up a government panel and they can decide if your child is stupid and not worth teaching.

    Bring back factories and manual labor jobs, then they wouldn't need to try and go to college. But as it is with no blue collar jobs or fewer and fewer every year just what are they to do?
     
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  17. rigrat

    rigrat Semper Fi

    Good ole common core at its finest.
     
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  18. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene Distinguished Poster

    Nothing wrong with not going to college. But expecting that to relieve you of having to work for a living is wrongheaded.

    I have a friend in another state who just retired from the garbage collection job he held for many years. He never went to college, but he has 2 nice homes, a 30ft fishing boat, a couple of custom hotrods and lives a good honest life.
     
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  19. NRA_guy

    NRA_guy Distinguished Poster

    He sounds like a great guy . . . and he must not have been married and divorced 2 or 3 times. :)
     
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