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I think I want a Ruger .22 pistol, but I'm having trouble figuring out which one I should want. I can get a new blued 22/45 with a 5.5" bull barrel and adjustable rear sight for $282.50 OTD. Or, I can buy a used blued MK III with a 5.5" tapered barrel and adjustable rear sight that's in pretty nice condition locally for $299 OTD. Which one should I buy and why?

To be perfectly honest, I find negatives with both that involve the grip. I'm not a 1911 lover and the grip on the 22/45 just doesn't feel right at all. Don't care much for the grip angle and find it entirely too thin. Unfortunately, the grip on it is molded into the plastic frame. so modifications are pretty limited and the ones that are available are pretty hokey. However, I really don't care much for the MK III's grip, either. I guess I'm not much of a Luger guy, either, but do I find myself leaning towards the MK III for some reason. Probably because it does have real grips and a metal reciever. Just wish it had a bull barrel.

The MK III may be a mute point, because I think it may be the gun Sidroski was talking about buying a while back and I'm not gonna buy it out from under him, if he still intends to pick it up. The reason I say that is he mentioned this one being a sort of weird MK III in that it has a metal frame and a loaded chamber indicator. I think it may have been one of the last ones made before the transition to plastic. I believe I read somewhere that there were very few made like that. Possibly why the shop thinks it's worth $299 and won't budge off the price.

Anyways, which would you buy and why? I've also got a couple of more options, but I don't know how viable they really are. I can pick up a fairly ragged out MK I for $250, but it looks kinda rough like it had been in the floorboard of someones truck. I also found a pair of Bill Ruger Commemorative MK II's that can be bought for $350 each. Both are in pristine and possibly unfired condition, but he doesn't have the boxes, paper work, or extra mags. Not sure they're worth quite that much considering what's missing, but he wasn't willing to budge on the price. I might have taken one of them for about $25 less. Told him I'd think about them, but I'm probably gonna pass on account of the price. They were kinda strange looking with white grips. I'd feel like a pimp taking them to the range. Those and the rolled engraving on the hood really didn't appeal to me.
 

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I agree with SGF. I would never buy a 22/45 because it is plastic framed. It is against my religion to have a plastic framed handgun. I use a Mark II 6-7/8" barrel. The triggers have to be tweaked and the magazines checked for function but they are truly accurate.

Doug "OLDE FASHIONED" Bowser
 

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Well, let me ask this, since the concensus is pretty much unanamous for the MK II, do you think one of those commemoratives would be worth $350? I carefully examined both and neither appeared to have ever been shot, however one had a small spot of surface rust on the lettering on the left side that looked like it could be wiped away fairly easily and the other had some handling scratches around the bolt. Again, both were being sold as bare pistols with only one mag. I kinda wrote them off as being too expensive, but I may have been premature in doing it. I went over there prepared to offer $300, but he wasn't entertaining that idea at all, however I do like the guy and might be willing to meet his price, if the gun's worth it. I can find them online ranging from what I wanted to offer to a whole lot more, however most of them are complete unfired packages and his are not. To be honest, I kinda felt like he was asking a premium for an incomplete item holding it out as a collectable. I'm not looking for that or to pay extra for it. I'm just looking for a shooter.
 

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Well, I solved this problem, but I think I took the long way around to get there. I called the dealer again this morning concerning the MK III and learned it had fixed sights, which sorta turned me off to the gun. Tried to negotiate again and all he was willing to come down was $10, so I blew that one off. I had already just about blown off the commemoratives, as well.

Decide to drive over to Academy to take a look at their offerings and came home with 2 Browning Buckmarks for a lot less money than the Rugers were gonna set me back. One for me and, since my youngest son's birthday is tomorrow, another for him. I know I'm gonna enjoy mine and figure, since this will be his first gun, he'll enjoy his, too. We should have a lot of fun plinking together.

I was impressed with what I got for the money. They're the base gun, but have the finger groove grips, which feel very nice. They also have adjustable rear sights which is a nice option, as well. On top of that, they're Brownings, so I think I'll be more than happy with my choice. I thought $269.99 plus tax was more than fair on the price. Another plus is that these things are so much easier to strip and clean than the Rugers or S&Ws.

 

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Buckmarks are good pistols. Some just don't like the looks and feel.

I think you will be happy with your purchases. Now load up on 22 ammo.............

(Buy Winchester 22 ammo because it is MADE IN MISSISSIPPI)



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Well, I solved this problem, but I think I took the long way around to get there. I called the dealer again this morning concerning the MK III and learned it had fixed sights, which sorta turned me off to the gun. Tried to negotiate again and all he was willing to come down was $10, so I blew that one off. I had already just about blown off the commemoratives, as well.

Decide to drive over to Academy to take a look at their offerings and came home with 2 Browning Buckmarks for a lot less money than the Rugers were gonna set me back. One for me and, since my youngest son's birthday is tomorrow, another for him. I know I'm gonna enjoy mine and figure, since this will be his first gun, he'll enjoy his, too. We should have a lot of fun plinking together.

I was impressed with what I got for the money. They're the base gun, but have the finger groove grips, which feel very nice. They also have adjustable rear sights which is a nice option, as well. On top of that, they're Brownings, so I think I'll be more than happy with my choice. I thought $269.99 plus tax was more than fair on the price. Another plus is that these things are so much easier to strip and clean than the Rugers or S&Ws.

Hrdnox, I feel like You and Your Son will enjoy the Buckmarks. I have the Ruger MKII and would not get rid of it. But I want to get a Buckmark also. Enjoy the fun You and Your Son will have makihg memories with them. Good Shooting
 

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I think we will, too. The Buckmark wasn't my first choice, since I've always been somewhat of a Ruger fan, but the price reeled me in. I didn't realize I could get one for a similar price. I don't think it's always been that way. I will say that I've never heard the first negative thing about them, which is more than I can say for the Rugers, however every Ruger .22 I've been around was absolutely reliable, so I usually discount the bad reports as having more to do with the shooter than the gun. To be perfectly honest, it looked like I was going to have to settle for a 22/45 and the Buckmark just felt better in my hand. Other than that, I believe the two guns are equal to one another. We probably would have been happy with either.
 

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The Buckmark has no trigger stop. If the pistol is to be used for a Bullseye Target Pistol, this is not acceptable.

Doug
I figured something must be wrong with it, or else it wouldn't have been so cheap, right? :D From what I've seen and felt, this inferior trigger is gonna suit me just fine, stop or no stop. This trigger is so superior to Ruger triggers that no one has seen the need to built an expensive modification yet. IMHO, attacking this trigger is barking up the wrong tree, because I can't even see a reason to polish it. Besides that, it stops just fine at the end of it's long 1/16" pull. Breaks immediately and travels a very short distance. But, I'll be sure to avoid those Bullseye matches, because now I've been informed that this gun isn't up to the task.:)

Doug, has anything ever pleased you in your entire life? I'd bet not, because I've yet to see you post one pleasant thing around here. Although I have the utmost respect for you and your business, I've started skipping over your posts, because quite frankly, most are downers and only you understand why. I thank God that I'm not that miserable. You know, our mothers always said if we can't say something nice, we really should keep our thoughts to ourselves. It might behoove you to revisit that concept some day.:)
 

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Nice Buckmarks! Great job turning another "me purchase" (something I'm all too guilty of) into an opportunity to share something with your son.

I'm partial to the older S&W 422/622/2206 pistols, but the Buckmarks certainly have a great reputation.
 

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I don't have a problem with Doug, he knows I consider him a friend. Just wish something would improve his outlook on life. Sometimes I worry about him and the people around him. Just a smile every now and then would help. I promise it doesn't hurt.:)
 

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Was at Doug's house today; he's recovering from unnecessary surgery for a hernia that wasn't there, plus bronchitis, and yet he is laughing and joking with der Junge and me...like I said, what to a Southerner sounds like a negative outlook on things is really a (now I have to preface this with "bless his heart") Yankee's lack of tact. Glad you consider him a friend, there's nothing he wouldn't do for a friend. I know, he has adopted my family...and has helped us out in too many ways to count. Yet I and others in the club have on more than one occasion told him "you're going Yankee again, Doug!" when he is, shall we say, less than tactful in his choice of words. Like when service is too slow in the target pits. Or we forget the repair centers for the targets or...you get the idea.
Enjoy the Buckmarks, nothing like plinking with your son with .22 pistols on a nice day! You can shoot a lot and don't burn a lot of $$ !
 
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