Montana Gold: JHP or CMJ
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I think most people will say that the JHP has a slight accuracy edge in most guns over the CMJ. Whether that is because the mass is located more "outward" along the rotating axis on the JHPs, the base of the JHPs are more uniform or consistent, or if it is even true in most guns is up to debate. I have shot both and don't remember there being a major difference, if any, but I also don't remember doing any real thorough testing of them. Both were easily adequate enough for my limited division gun in competition. I have a case of MG, either CMJ or FMJ, I can't remember, that I will get to eventually. The only reason I don't shoot MG all the time is I can get other good bullets a little cheaper.
The advantages of the CMJ that I can think of would be slightly lower cost, the ability to tumble loaded ammo and not get media in the nose (not necessary and I don't tumble my ammo so this is a non-factor for me personally), and I guess potentially a small edge in feeding. I would be surprised if this was actually the case though, as the nose of the MG JHP is a very rounded profile and feeds very well. If the gun and mags are close to right and the ammo is loaded within a reasonable length range for the gun, these will both feed 100% in my experience.
If you were looking for a pure accuracy load, although you could try the MG's, I would be willing to bet a Sierra, Nosler, or Hornady bullet would beat both in most applications, albeit at a higher cost for most likely a small benefit. Zero also makes a competitively priced JHP that shoots very well, especially for the cost. www.rozedist.com I shot these for a while several years ago and still have a couple thousand around. The only reason I don't shoot these is also because I can get other decent bullets a little cheaper.
I know this is a bit beyond what you asked, but I've been shooting Precision Delta FMJ's for quite a while and they are fine for me. http://precisiondelta.com/ They are an exposed lead base and give up a little to the "best" bullets in pure accuracy, but they are an acceptable tradeoff of cost/performance to me, at least for USPSA/IPSC.
My $.02 anyway.
The advantages of the CMJ that I can think of would be slightly lower cost, the ability to tumble loaded ammo and not get media in the nose (not necessary and I don't tumble my ammo so this is a non-factor for me personally), and I guess potentially a small edge in feeding. I would be surprised if this was actually the case though, as the nose of the MG JHP is a very rounded profile and feeds very well. If the gun and mags are close to right and the ammo is loaded within a reasonable length range for the gun, these will both feed 100% in my experience.
If you were looking for a pure accuracy load, although you could try the MG's, I would be willing to bet a Sierra, Nosler, or Hornady bullet would beat both in most applications, albeit at a higher cost for most likely a small benefit. Zero also makes a competitively priced JHP that shoots very well, especially for the cost. www.rozedist.com I shot these for a while several years ago and still have a couple thousand around. The only reason I don't shoot these is also because I can get other decent bullets a little cheaper.
I know this is a bit beyond what you asked, but I've been shooting Precision Delta FMJ's for quite a while and they are fine for me. http://precisiondelta.com/ They are an exposed lead base and give up a little to the "best" bullets in pure accuracy, but they are an acceptable tradeoff of cost/performance to me, at least for USPSA/IPSC.
My $.02 anyway.
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·Are you able to get the PD for less than zero? I was looking at the 124gr FMJ on PD and the zeros from powder valley. Powder Valley was cheaper since I didn't have to pay tax. Of course PD has the advantage of actually having them in stock right now.
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two hour drive and you can go pick them up in person at PD and take the tour of the place! watching them take rolls of copper and lead wire and run them through WW1 era bullet machines is priceless! last time i bought PD bullets was 230gr 45 and was about $95 bucks +/- Talk to lisa
Good question. I was, but I haven't bought any since May and it looks like there has been a price increase. I was picking mine up from Tom at Action Shooting Supply at matches to save shipping, and since he is in Louisiana, the tax is a similar situation to buying from Powder Valley. I understand he is now running Gun-Ho, the new indoor range on the coast, so I am not sure how many matches he is doing now. I've still got a decent supply, but I will need to figure something out before too long. He can be contacted at [email protected] or (504) 458-0093.nothing said:
I've never bought from Powder Valley before. Back when I bought Zero's, it was just as cheap or cheaper to buy them directly from Zero since the shipping was included in their price. It doesn't look like they have any in stock either though.
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DB....FYI:
Talked to Tom yesterday and he said he'll be at our Feb. USPSA match. I'm also going down to pick up a press, bullets and primers next Friday. If I can pick anything up for you, let me know just case Tom doesn't make it.
Cliff
Talked to Tom yesterday and he said he'll be at our Feb. USPSA match. I'm also going down to pick up a press, bullets and primers next Friday. If I can pick anything up for you, let me know just case Tom doesn't make it.
Cliff
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·http://www.precisiondeltasales.com/SSwanner said:
made in MS, not to knock MG but their prices are just too high for my tastes. I've been happy with zero and precision delta, but lately I've gotten better deals with zero. The only downside is they have such a high demand they tend to run out of stock quickly. Not a big deal for me since I buy enough to last a few months.
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