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TS has HTF and there is no power or basic services and no government or law enforcement to be found. Its already been one month and refugees are now coming out of the cities into the rural areas assuming that there is more food available. (you chose to live in the country because you are a prepper).

What is your position on rendering aid to refugees and why?

Keeping in mind that many of these will be young children and women, and that any food you part with reduces the time your family can keep going.
 

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Since I don't live in the country, I hope that won't make me a refugee.


Our plan is to stay put being very "quiet" until the hoards have killed themselves off for the most part.

With a toddler & an infant we won't be leaving most likely. I've got 6 months of supplies stocked away.


That said, I never say "never" and if we are refugees, we'll be armed & have supplies to trade. If that's the case I'd hope we meet folks like us.
 

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thats areal hard one,if they make it that far out, i'd lik to think i do the right thing??? don't no what that would be right now,hope i never hav to answer it,,BUT i would be weary of all
 

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Basically like after Katrina, except it was only 2 weeks around here.

There comes a time when doin the "right" thing can get you killed.
Stand your ground and take care of those you can.

Hope the time never comes, if it does then good luck to everyone..
 

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Family and support circle would have to come first out of necessity for survival, then I guess it would come down to weather there was a hopeful end in sight.
 
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This is a good question and one each person needs to answer before the situation arises. In that situation I want them moving on unless they have something I need. In that case I may barter some food or meds but they will come at a high price.

One thing that will be in short supply will be knowledge. Those of us that grew up on small farms have more than those growing up on the same farms today. Our grandparents had more than we do. I can see a blacksmith or farrier being a boon to any community as would doctors or dentists. Lawyers and politicians will be useless.

Learn a skill. Knowing how to properly clean, butcher and preserve an animal will put you in good stead almost anywhere and can be used today if you hunt. A carpenter or cabinet maker will have work even if it is building coffins. An ingenious plumber with a wind powered pump can earn a nice living just providing clean water and earn extra providing hot baths.

If SHTF you want to be the one person in town everybody wnats as a neighbor.
 

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That's a very good question that I haven't really considered. I'm inclined so say that the law of survival of the fitest would apply but that just doesn't seem right. I couldn't refuse to help those who are not able to help themselves with a clear conscience. Bums and looters would be handled differently
 

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Remember, if the SHTF, then some of these people looking for a handout might really just be scouting your property to learn how many people are in your home, what kind of weaponry you have, and what kind of food/medical supplies you have.
 

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My plan would be to go to deer camp , the woods and river would provide . I wouldn't want many people w me ( more mouthes to feed ) I would only want a few good men . With each man would probley be women and children . I would set up camp on the river away from any roads and patrol the peremiter constantly . Nobody gets in yeah it's cruel but my family is the only thing on my mind . If you have little ones you know what i'm talkin about . That's in an ideal survival situation , in reality . . . .idk. I would not want any contact with anybody I didn't know if possible .
 

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But i'm refering to a total :shtf: situation where I wouldn't want to be in any populated area . The people that have not will want what you have. If it comes to my kids . . .I might have to be the bad guy at times.
 

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I hope I would give until it hurts as I have been taught to do...but not to the point of significant risk to my family or myself.

I would hope that I could exchange goods/chores for what I may have...
 

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I have this fear of little sad eyes looking up at me. I don't think I'll be able to resist that.

My plan is to attempt to avoid that situation if I can. I live in the woods. If anyone knocks on my door they will have already had to trespass far beyond gates and fences and will not likely be met with compassion - if they get to the door at all.

I think the best policy is to put away some cheap food - rice or cornmeal - and designate it for charity. If you do have one of those situations where compassion gets the best of you; you can hand over a pound of rice, some salt, and a 2 liter bottle of water and tell them sternly to move on and don't come back.

smoffet is right about a scouting party. maybe not in the beginning, but after a while a smart group will send up a woman and child or similar to get the door open and report back or get your guard down before attacking. You have to treat each case as a potential ambush to be safe. As a matter of fact, a 24hr watch would be what I'd recommend with comms and a quick reaction team or two to intercept an intruder before they get anywhere close to your home or family - but that takes trained bodies. Of course living situations and locations will dictate what you can or can't do.
 

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I would be cautious but if I allow someone to stay it would be only if they pulled their fair share of the load earning them their fair share of the supplies. I would also be open to bertering for what I needed if it were an option.
 

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1985 4runner said:
Since I don't live in the country, I hope that won't make me a refugee.


Our plan is to stay put being very "quiet" until the hoards have killed themselves off for the most part.

With a toddler & an infant we won't be leaving most likely. I've got 6 months of supplies stocked away.


That said, I never say "never" and if we are refugees, we'll be armed & have supplies to trade. If that's the case I'd hope we meet folks like us.

Yep what he said... My "family" would include some church friends. So most likely, I would "reffer" those looking for a handout to a charitable arm of our group.. about what I do now .. come to think of it.




PS: My wife is the chair of that committee.. dont for one second think she is a push-over. A big sad-eyed pregnant girl with no baby-daddy is likely to get a box of pampers ..if she can stand the 2 hour lecture it comes with.
 

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Should the situation arise, my family would come first. Wife and kids are top priority. After that comes extended family and church family. I'm all about helping somebody out, but not at the expense of those for whom I'm responsible.

As the saying goes, a failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
 
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