[COWBOYCOPUS]

You seem very knowledgeable about ATF laws. In my post about ARMSLIST you talked about in-state and out of state FTF sales, and FFL sales. I'm not an FFL dealer. I have never felt the need to ask for an I.D. if I sell to a friend (I thought FTF was Friend To Friend). What I'm saying is, if someone answers a local ad and wants to meet me half way in Jackson, how would I know if he's from AL, TN, LA, or FL? Is it on me to ask for I.D.? There have been cases where I felt uncomfortable about the sale and refused, but few, in all these years. Your input and others are welcome...
Thanks, COWBOY

 

[savageshooter]

i think this is a question for Doug.

 

[Rw]

Long guns can be bought by an out of state resident face to face or over the counter at a gun store. Handguns cannot legally be bought by a resident of another state face to face or at a gunstore. They can have it shipped to a ffl in their state and have it transferred to them though.

 

[JMS39339]

I will chime in on one thing about Armslist. Armslist breaks each state down into generalized areas and although it is misleading, the area that they assign to North Mississippi is Memphis. The Memphis area listings are also for Southaven, Olive Branch, etc so when you're looking at the list and see Memphis as the location, you won't actually know until you look at the ad itself whether it is in Memphis or MS.

 

[COWBOYCOPUS]

Back to my question, is it incumbent upon me as a private citizen buying or selling stuff, to check someones I.D. For any reason? If I "know" he is a felon, that's obvious "don't do it" but it would not show on his I.D. If he's under age with a fake I.D. how would I know? If I'm the buyer all I care about is "is it hot". I'm just saying', that's all.

 

[Dock Rocker]

Think about it this way. No matter how the law reads if you sell a gun to a felon and he goes and kills someone you are about to get the crap sued out of you by the victims family. If he commits just about any crime you are going to find yourself in a civil and criminal bind.

 

[COWBOYCOPUS]

How would I know he's a felon??? That's my point!! Even had I checked his I.D. it would not tell me he's a felon. I, as a private citizen have no way to check. If I shoot someone trying to kill me I get sued. If I sell a motorcycle to an inexperienced rider and he kills himself I get sued. I'm just sayin' that's all..

 

[Dock Rocker]

How would I know he's a felon??? That's my point!! Even had I checked his I.D. it would not tell me he's a felon. I, as a private citizen have no way to check. If I shoot someone trying to kill me I get sued. If I sell a motorcycle to an inexperienced rider and he kills himself I get sued. I'm just sayin' that's all..

Ignorance is not a defense

 

[Doug Bowser]

You cannot legally buy any firearm from a non-dealer across State lines. You have to be citizens of the same State.

You may buy long arms from a gun dealer from another State as long as that State allows sales without a permit.

If you are a Citizen of Mississippi, you may buy a handgun or long arm from another Mississippi Citizen. Some States, you have to sell through dealers only.

Doug

 

[NRA_guy]

Sorry, I am just now noticing this.

By the way "FTF" means "face to face" (as opposed to having a gun shipped from buyer to seller).

The short answer is that you are not under the same obligation as an FFL dealer.

They have the ability to (and they must) run a background check on the buyer and verify his identity.

When you sell a gun (any kind of gun) in the parking lot of Burger King you are not under a legal obligation to do any checking on the buyer.

You don't have to because there is no law saying that you must.

If he's a convicted felon, he's committing a crime---but you aren't, unless you have reason to believe that he is a felon.

If he's from out of state and you are selling him a handgun, he's committing a crime---but again, I think you aren't. There is no law requiring it, but asking for the buyers' ID is easy and offers the seller a bit of protection just in case. Some buyers will not do a FTF if the seller insists upon seeing some ID.

(This is what Chicago tries to stop. Chicago gang bangers drive down to Mississippi and buy a truck load of guns off the street then take them back home. Chicago wants to dictate Mississippi law and prohibit it. Too much competition with their Mafia sales I suppose.)

Of course, any of us could be sued in civil court any time for any reason.

I found this and it looks right:

UNLICENSED PERSONS

To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law.

No nonlicensee shall transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee, who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in the State in which the transferor resides.

 

[mstrsippy]

I ran a couple of names of convicted felons thru this site. Some of them flagged, some did not. It's a free site
http://criminalsearches.com/