Thanks Will_M. I missed that one. Interesting discussion, for sure. Interesting gun, too, for that matter. I doubt I'll ever have one, but it's nice to know what abilities it does have, in case I have to duck one evening. Still not quite sure it's a viable personal defense weapon, though. Perhaps in the right hands, but I would think one would need an awful lot of practice with it to become proficient. Appears that might get quite pricey, too. Funny thing is he said he got rid of his 45 because it was too expensive to shoot, then he said a box of 50 rounds set him back $20. I don't know if they were HPs or not. They had a little blue plastic looking tip. They did look bad assed, but still tiny for a SD round. Hopefully, he won't find the need to shoot through body armor, but I suppose you never know.