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I am almost done with my newest toy. This is the first gun I have been excited about in a long time. I was looking for something that was full auto, dependable and cheap to shoot. After looking around I found this. It is an open bolt 10/22 short barrel rifle. It will be this weekend before I can take it out for a test drive. I cant wait!!!





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I've got quite a bit of 22RF ammo setting on the shelf....... Hint...Hint...Hint.

And a bunch of 30rd mags.......

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Doesn't it just kill you to have a new cool toy in your hands and have to WAIT to shoot it..........................

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It does in fact suck to have to wait to shoot it. I will give you a shout when I get it running. You are welcome to shoot it all you want.
 

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Good looking gun. Who made the folding stock? Who did the barrel work for you? What make/model can is that?
The stock is a home made job. I just cut a stock tapsco (I think) stock down. I had Billie Tierce cut a stock barrel down and threaded. The barrel is 5 inches plus the threading. It really is a budget build. I should have about $100.00 plus the cost of the original gun in the whole project.
 

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A friendly suggestion before you hit the range. Take as many different kinds of .22LR ammo with you as you can manage. Magazines too.

I've had a bit of full auto .22 experience and every one I've ever owned or been around was ammo sensitive. My AM-15 upper for the M-16 liked Federal bulk pack but it was the exception. CCI MiniMag is by far the most reliable .22 ammo I've used or seen used in each conversion.

I was a Beta tester for the Akins Accelerator, (10-22 based), and a good friend has a registered 10-22 Norell .22 trigger pack. Ruger 10/22 receivers are all over the place spec wise and some are magazine sensitive in addition to being ammo sensitive.

If you have feeding problems with rimfire .22LR in an open bolt system, you risk an OOB experience. It's not a catastrophic event with the small round, but you do risk damaging the magazine or taking a piece of brass in your arm... or worse. Eye protection is suggested.
I suffered a few OOBs with my open bolt .22 Uzi conversion to include one squibb that ringed the barrel.

One OOB on my open bolt AM-15 upper blew out the feed scoop on my 220 round drum. http://www.vegasshooters.com/forum/video/slowsubs.wmv
 

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Thanks for the VALUABLE info Vegas. Those J & G Brothers need all the help they can get................ :) When I meet up with them to try their new toy I will be using some of the 30rd 10/22 mags you gave me.

Sorry to hear you damaged a 220rd AM-15 drum due to a "mini" KABOOM.

From the video (which I have watched many times before.... thanks), I noticed your AM-15 just wants to RUN & RUN...... 5 or 6 rounds after you let off the trigger......... :)

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noticed your AM-15 just wants to RUN & RUN...... 5 or 6 rounds after you let off the trigger......... :) .
Noticed that also .. thought I was seeing things!!
 

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The American 180 Lexan drums in 177, 220, and 275 round capacity are used on the AM-15 upper. This is the drum's feed scoop that was blown out from an OOB round. Federal 333 round bulk pack ammo which is NOT the same as Federal 525 or 550 count bulk packages. All my Lexan bottom plates were eventually replaced with aluminum ones from E&L Manufacturing that actually seemed to function better. At any rate, I didn't loose a hundred dollar drum due to an OOB but rimfire ammo's method of ignition coupled with an open bolt subgun increases the risk of an OOB.



The "run on" you see in the video had never occurred before or after that day. It seems like anytime you shoot a match, your perfect gun turns to crap. I see it on a monthly basis at our subgun matches and I've learned several new and colorful expressions to express extreme displeasure over a malfunctioning subgun. :x

If you look very closely at six different brands of .22LR, you'll notice that each bullet is slightly different. Even ammo from the same manufacturer will be different from one line to another if you examine it closely.

Getting most brands of rimfire ammo to run in semi auto is pretty easy. Full auto isn't, and I suspect you'll quickly figure that out. Once you find the right ammo/magazine combination things can be fun but it can be a chore getting there.

Most full auto .22 LR guns run very fast and that only compounds the problem. I hope you don't have any issues and this little beast and it will run on anything. All I'm saying is I'd try to have as many different brands of .22LR ammo on hand to maximize you potential for success. CCI MiniMag is spendy, but I'll bet it'll run when others don't and it's still half the price of 9mm. Yeah, I know everyone wants to run the cheapest bulk pack they can find, but it doesn't always work out that way.

I noted the suppressor in the photo and increased back pressure may or may not be your friend. I'd try it both ways with every type of ammo until you find the sweet spot. IIRC, I gave you some Eagle mags. I was briefly a local distributor and I still have the better part of a case. Many Akins Accelerator owners found these cheap mags worked well but we also discovered the wide variations in the way Ruger 10/22s are built. Heck, today's models use a plastic trigger pack!

I look forward to photos and a range report.
 
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