[oilfield trash]

Well yesterday I decided to buy me a new S&W M&P 15-22. I got it at about 10am. I went to shoot it at about 2 that afternoon. This thing was shooting fairly accurate and had very few firing problems at about 200 rounds. I was very impressed. I put it back in my truck about to head home, but my little cousin drove up wanted to see it. I pulled it back out and loaded it. I fired about 10 rounds and then it happened. It fired out of battery.

I'm sitting now at the airport about to go to work and will be gone for three weeks. So, it looks like it will have to lay broken at my house til I come back home and can see about sending it to S&W. Very aggravating to happen on a gun I'd only had for about 5 or 6 hours. I have some pictures on my camera, but can't seem to find my card reader so I can load them to my computer. It looks like the bolt and extractor will need some repairs.

Just thought I would share a FML sotry.


I also thought I put this in the rimfire section, my bad.

 

[msredneck]

Mods Please Move to rimfire

firing out of battery not cool. Send that mutha back to S&W.

I wish the gun mfg's would focus on quality more....what is the big rush...

Sorry you are having the trouble...You might mention the forum in your note and let Smith and Wesson know we expect them to tighten up.

I sent S&W an email on a revolver a few weeks ago and got what I'd call a terse reply...My last 2 revolvers have subsequently been Rugers

 

[righttoown]

I look at them and just did'nt care for the cheap plastic receiver they are built on.

 

[captain-03]

Man that is a bummer -- S&W should treat you right ... ... just the hassle, I know!!

 

[swede62]

Let us know how they treat you and what their response is. In the past they have really been good to me. I was considering purchasing one as well for cheap AR practice. I have a 10/22, but liked the fact that the controls on the Smith work exactly like a real AR. I wasn't particularly enamered with the Colt version, and it cost more.

 

[msredneck]

You might wanna read this...it is depressing...I've always been a fan of S&W...especially their revolvers...Of course the following is just one man's opinion...

I wish you well in dealing with S&W...fingers crossed for a good report

http://www.chuckhawks.com/smith-wesson_dark.htm

 

[mescal]

I was planning on picking one of these up. I'll have to do some research obviously, see if this is common.

 

[swede62]

You might wanna read this...it is depressing...I've always been a fan of S&W...especially their revolvers...Of course the following is just one man's opinion...

I wish you well in dealing with S&W...fingers crossed for a good report

http://www.chuckhawks.com/smith-wesson_dark.htm

Chuck didn't have much good to say about Smith & Wesson. I won't totally disagree with what he said, but I haven't seen it as bad as he mentions. As far as copying other peoples work who doesn't make a 1911, or an AR. Smith & Wesson held the Rollin White patent for a bored thru cylinder that Colt couldn't wait to copy as soon as the patent expired. I guess what I'm saying the whole industry does it to some extent.
Sorry for hijacking the thread! If the mods see fit this may be valid for futher conversation elsewhere.

I seriously hope that they do right by you. Like I said before in the past they have been helpful with questions I've had, and they sent me some manuals in the mail once free of charge.

 

[Guest]

Not many people seem to remember that the S&W bosses (at that time) were the ones that sold American handgun owners out to the Congress of the USA..Legislation was up in the house that S&W didn't like (More gun control against handgun ownership) so the S&W bosses went to congress and the congressional leadership agreed to not pursue the matter on the floor of the house and S&W agreed to elevate prices on their handguns (double and in a few cases almost triple) to the point that many people could no longer affoed to buy a pistol. S&W didn't have to worry about sales because they had more sales than they could handle anyway (LEO sales). This little "trick" caused major problems for S&W that lasted for several years and after management/policy changes, they began to come back strong in the market. The NRA leadership, at that time, just stood on the sideline doing very little. Their membership dropped drastically and it took some time to get new leadership back into the NRA to rebuild the organization.

 

[Magnum man]

I almost bought one of those S&W's. Paid more for the Colt and by evidence of this post, got more for my money. No problems so far at 2000 plus rounds. (Of course, the Colt is made by Walther)

 

[nonnieselman]

Ive heard alot of bad stuff like that about the S&Ws
Ive had several OOB's in my Spikes Tactical with cheap winchester ammo, but no harm done.
I put over 1000 rounds of Federal thru it the first day i had it, my neighbors loved it :x

 

[bubbat]

I almost bought one of those S&W's. Paid more for the Colt and by evidence of this post, got more for my money. No problems so far at 2000 plus rounds. (Of course, the Colt is made by Walther)

The Colt is made by Umarex an airsoft company. That's the main reason I passed on buying the Colt.

http://www.umarexusa.com/

 

[JMS39339]

I almost bought one of those S&W's. Paid more for the Colt and by evidence of this post, got more for my money. No problems so far at 2000 plus rounds. (Of course, the Colt is made by Walther)

The Colt is made by Umarex an airsoft company. That's the main reason I passed on buying the Colt.

http://www.umarexusa.com/

Yeah. They also manufacture the Walther P22 and the new PK380. I've always liked Walther products but these Umarex products are pretty much what you'd expect. I've heard good things about the Sig 522. I'm not sure if they are making it or having it made by someone else.

 

[swede62]

I like the trigger on the SIG as opposed to the Colt and Smith AR type 22's. It is very SIGish in it's feel and break. If they are not making it then they are having a lot input in the how it's made. The retail cost is the same as the Smith which is about a $100 less than the Colt. The biggest issue I've had with SIG is the cost of their magazines. I don't know what mags are going to cost for this new 22 yet.

As for the Political aspects of the previous owners of Smith they got what they deserved, and you'll get no argument from me. I sold all I had at the time, and refused to buy anything from them. When new managment changed the policies I decided to give them another chance. The change that was affected was from the American people speaking with their wallets, and putting out the word.

 

[Magnum man]

Walther, Umarex, Colt....I doesn't really matter, as long as it is accurate and works. So far, so good...Or REALLY good.

 

[nonnieselman]

I have a 1.5# Jard Trigger in my Spikes Tactical 22

 

[cyberwaste]

umarex is making the HK .22s too the big difference is the HK and colt ones have aluminum uppes and the sig does too where the smith is all polymer.

Sig is making the 522 in house don't know if smith makes there own.

 

[swede62]

umarex is making the HK .22s too the big difference is the HK and colt ones have aluminum uppes and the sig does too where the smith is all polymer.

Sig is making the 522 in house don't know if smith makes there own.

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about the Smith for training purposes, but I might wait a little longer to find out how deal with this problem.

 

[cyberwaste]

So Smith makes there's also they have fixed this issue if you happen to get a bad one which would be an early one they will pay for shipping and give you 2 free mags.

 

[swede62]

So Smith makes there's also they have fixed this issue if you happen to get a bad one which would be an early one they will pay for shipping and give you 2 free mags.

That's good to hear!