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Pawn shop find.

Well I'm not one that usually finds a deal at a pawn shop but I go anyway. Went to a few in pearl nothing to call home about just the same ol high priced stuff. So I drove to v'burg went to another one, it had a good selection with some ok prices just nothing that jumped out at me.

Then I stopped at the one off of washington st with the colored gorillas out in front. Got to asking about a Remington 700 and he had one in 30/06. Just a base modal with weaver scope mounts and a bushnell scope on it for $460ish. Told him I was wanting one to build off of it so he offered to take the scope and rings off and let me have it for $250 OTD. If my research is right it's a 1969 modal. Blueing looks good to be 41 years old. Pics coming I promise. Lol

now for the build question, it's a long action so what calibers I'm I "stuck" with?
What do y'all suggest? Name em all.
 

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if I'm not mistaken, conversions off of the springfield 30-06 with a bolt face diameter of 0.470...
220 swift, 6mm rem, 240 Weatherby mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 rem, 257 Weatherby, 6.5 x 55 swedish, 270 win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 rem, 8mm Mauser, 338-06 a square, and the 35 Whelen.
I only know this because I research this info awhile back.. if this info isn't correct someone please let me know and I apologize..I know a good couple of guys that can do any conversion for you.. just PM me.
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Thanks, I didn't know it was that many. Now what would you do and why?
 

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I just went through the same process...

I'm having a Savage 30'06 re-chambered in 35 Whelen...its gonna be a beautiful beast!
 

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depends on what you wanna do,,
220 swift- pretty good varmit caliber (prarie dogs, coyote etc)
6mm- good target rifle even tho it's not a BR.. my dad killed a nice antelope at a fair distance if i remember
270- great all around round.
mausers i don't know alot about 8mm / swedish etc
I know a guy that shoots 280 and loves it..
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I want it to be a very accurate round. I basicly want to build a deer rifle that I take to the woods everytime I go to the woods.

What's this 6.5x55??
 

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It is an old military round. Swede. The reloading data has it underpowered because the old military actions are often fairly weak.

220 Swift, 6mm Rem, 240 Weatherby Mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 Rem, 257 Weatherby ,
6.5x55 Swedish, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 Rem, 30/06 Springfield,
8mm Mauser, 338/06 A Square, and the 35 Whelen

I get a 280AI made out of it. Nothing wrong with a '06 though.

do you reload?
 

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Xd357,
What Cartridge do you want? There is no limit to what you can have with a 700LA! Anything with a .473” case head with the bolt you have or sell it on 6mmbr.com w/out the firing mech. for $125.00 shipped and buy a PT&G bolt with whatever bolt face and extractor cut you want. The trigger will sell for $50.00. The sky is the limit! http://www.stevespages.com/page8d.htm
You are already $100.00 to the good. A complete 700 action is worth $350.00 all day long.
My light Gun has 2 barrels and 2 bolts. One is a .300 ATLAS w/ a Magnum Bolt and the other is a 6mmDasher w/ a .473” bolt. I don’t have any problems running the short Dasher round out of the LA.
 

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What about 6.8 SPC? It can be very accurate in the right configuration. Very light recoil (think .223) and good on deer out to 300 yards with the right ammo. Factory ammo is kind of expensive (roughly $25/20 rounds of the good stuff) but you can bring that down if you reload. Be sure to get the chamber cut to the SPC-II specification if you go this route. Better velocities and lower pressures compared to the original SAAMI spec.
 

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Hey XD

25-06 has laid a many a deer out in MS....280 Remington is very accurate for the deer woods as well. Will you hunt woods or mainly wide open fields...If is woods, you aint under gunned at all with a 35 Whelen....It will kill anything that moves in MS up to 200 yards...what a train!

In my research, I've come to the conclusion that its pretty hard to build a really nice target gun and then have it suitable for hunting as well...

Target guns are heavy...you don't want that in a hunting gun you have to tote...so to my way of thinking...you have to build a really nice hunter...and then build a really nice target...otherwise you have to make so many sacrifices that the guns do neither as well as you'd like.

Same for scopes....the really nice target scopes are very heavy...a NF 5.5 x 22 - 50 is over 30 ounces....about twice what a typical hunting scope is...Hunting scopes don't need high magnification....Target scopes with 20 + magnification is needed are they are a lot more expensive than hunting scopes...and again...its pretty hard to buy one scope that will do both jobs well

so you gotta make up your mind....you want a super nice hunter...or a super nice target rifle you might take to an F class match....more than likely that aint gonna be the same gun...

Have fun deciding...I sure did
 

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Hard to beat the .30-06 for versatility, but if I had to decide, I would go with the .338-06 or the .35 Whelen.
 

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280 or 25-06...

25-06 ballistics are very similar to the 22-250. sight in at 25 and it shoots flat out to 300...
 

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you cant go wrong with just about any caliber now a days..

pick one and go with it.

Whats the farthest shot you wanna go with?
 

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Neck you bring up a lot of good points.

I've got a field that's about 550yds. So I want to be accurate for long range shots. I won't mind it being a little on the heavy side but I don't want it too heavy.

I will be reloading for it so that's not a problem. I already own a .243,6mm,30-06 savage. Not trying to fill a gap per say just want one that I grab every time I go in the woods.

What these ai cals? I've seen y'all talk about them. Would I have to make my own brass by fire forming it?

Thanks for all the info.
 

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Rbelote said:
what 300 atlas said you can change the bolt and do whatever you want.
sounds good, it's just this is a whole new world to me. I've always shot factory guns and factory ammo. Just played with the ammo to see what shot the best. Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
 

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AI means Ackley Improved. PO Ackley did some mild chamber mods on a few different calibers. Pushed the shoulder forward and made it 40 degrees as opposed to the more standard 30-35. Some calibers benefit from this more than others. Supposedly the 280 is one that does because the extra powder helps get 160 bullets close if not just a hair above 3000fps. There is factory brass and you can make some frm 3006 lapua brass.

Plus there is a significant cool factor that is involved. !!
 
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