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I may not be able to attend but I could write y'all a set of basic range rules. The event will have people of all manner of expertise in handling firearms, so the rules would have to be thorough as well as simple. You would be surprised how many times I have been scared out of my wits by new shooters at ranges. You have to prepare for the least experienced shooters. Some of the attendees will not have had formal range experience. If you want me to do this, let me know. I have 35 years experience as a range officer.

Do you have insurance, for use of firearms, on the property you are going to conduct the event on? If not the owner of the property is liable. I could probably talk our club into hosting the event. There would have to be a token fee for use of the facility. Targets, electricity, insurance, clay targets, etc. Our club would have to set the safety rules and provide RO's. We could not have the event until after July 1st.

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Doug...If it won't be too much of a burden...would you write us up some range rules?.....It would have to be general in nature.

Right now plans are to have pistol and some skeet and rifle.

Maybe some longer range rifle depending on how we decide to lay it out....
 

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Range rules

bigsig said:
Range rules would be great.
This would be what I would recommend, it sounds complicated but it would be the only way to safely handle this event:

1. Rule: All firearms should be in gun cases. No holsters, exposed carry or slung rifles. When not firing, all firearms should be unloaded and in their case. When bringing firearms to the line, they should be in the case and the muzzle pointed downrange before opening the case. The case should be opened only at the firing line.

2. Rule: When out of the case, all firearms should have the bolts or actions open. A piece of weed wacker cord should be inserted into the chamber when they are out of the gun case and not being fired. When the case is opened, they should be grounded or on a table and pointing downrange when not being fired. The weed wacker cord (clear chamber indicator) allows the Range Officer to identify the line as being safe, before going forward to score or change targets.

3. Suggestion: There should be a fumble area (a place to show each other our firearms) set aside from the range and not pointing toward the camping area. There should be a table or tables there.

4. Suggestion: When pistol shooting 6' folding tables should be on the line and the shooters should rest their pistols on the table between shots. To not have the tables is dangerous. The pistol could be rested by dropping it down and pointing at the leg or foot. One table for 2 shooters. Shooters are not as likely to drop a rifle or shotgun down and point the muzzle at themselves.

5. Rule: Range Commands: (3 seconds between commands)

Shooters to the line
Your 3 minute preperation period begins now (RO observes the line and when everyone seems ready, ask the line if more prep period is needed, start the line if there is no response)
Load (only on command, the RO can observe the line and tell when the line has loaded)
Is the line ready (shooters should only respond if they are not ready)
Ready on the right
Ready on the left
All ready on the firing line
Commence fire and after the time limit decided on,
Cease fire

Most slowfire time limits are 1 minute per shot. Sighter periods may be from 5 to 10 minutes and the line is run the same way for sighters as record firing.

After the cease fire command:
Make the line safe, actions open, magazines removed, clear chamber indicators inserted (weed wacker cord)

Is the line safe (all shooters inspect the line and indicate the line is safe)

After the line is determined to be safe,

Go forward and score and change targets

If there is an emergency cease fire, all shooting stops and the line is made safe.. Indicate this by saying cease fire two or three times in a rapid and loud manner.

There should be 1 Chief Range Officer. In addition to the RO, one line officer for each 4 shooters.

6. Rule: If there is a malfunction on the range, the shooter is to raise their hand and keep the firearm downrange. The RO or a line officer goes to the shooter and helps clear the firearm. If a shooter turns and points an unloaded fiream at anyone they are warned the first time and ejected from the match on the second offense. If the fiream is loaded when sweeping anyone they are out of the shooting for the rest of the day.

7. Rule: When carrying a firearm at the range, the only safe way to carry is with the firearm vertical and the muzzle above the head of the person carrying it. This should only apply in carrying shotguns to and from the trap range firing line. Downward carry is not safe at a range except while shooting trap and the shooter is actually firing. If there is an accidental discharge with the muzzle down the shot or bullet can ricochet off the ground. Also, if downward carry is allowed, eventually someone will sweep someone with a firearm, usually at the offended person's legs.

8. Suggestion: Have a vertical gun rack at the trap range. Shooters should uncase their guns and put hem in the gun rack before shooting on the trap range. No more than 4 guns should be in the rack and only the guns of shooters that are due to fire. All other guns should be cased.

This is how matches are operated at our ranges. This is according to the NRA and military regulations. I have fired and observed these procedures at military ranges at Camp Perry, Ft. Smith and Ft. Benning.

I hope this helps. Operating a match, where the expertise of the participants is unknown can be difficult. We had the MS Senior Olympics today and one of the participants was loading a .22 rf revolver behind the line and pointing 180 degrees from the firing line. He was stopped immediately. The RO has to keep his/her eyes open.

Be sure there is a shooter's briefing outlining the rules you adopt. Furnish the rules you adopt on the forum. Don't assume everyone has read them.

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Thanks Doug...Simple eh....I'd consider myself a fairly experienced shooter but this kinda blew me away :thumbup:

Shooting by yourself or with one or 2 folks is a lot different that 30 or 40...or whatever it will be. If you've never seen this practiced before it can be a lot to think about....

Only diff @ Gunsite, They wanted all pistols to remain in the holster if not firing...That way it was clear were all the pistols were...Of course all there were was pistols in the class...not rifles shotguns etc...

It was wierd having a "cocked and locked" 1911 on your hip all week in a class...even in the classroom....

Very Good Doug...as usual
 

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I think that might need to be simplifyed a bit seems like a lot every range I have ever been to you just have to have ear and eye protiction on at all times while in the firing area, all weapons are to be placed on your shooting stall facing down range, the ROs call cease fire one about every 10 mins to change targets and what not. But this is just fun shooting which is what I have always done. Never shot any kind of compitition. Just my $.02 which ain't worth much. LOL
 

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Hey cyberwaste....Good to have ya.

eyes and ears is a given....We are going to error on side of safety even if we have to be kinda "anal" about it.

This event is on private property....mine...so I gotta CYA a little bit...It will get worked out.

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Eye and Hearing Protection

In my training for NRA Certified Pistol Coach, it is explained that eye and hearing protection is to be strongly recommended. If you make it mandatory it puts more liability on the club or land owner. If eye and hearing protection is mandatory and by chance a range officer does not see a shooter without eye and hearing protection and there is an accident to the eyes or ears, the club or organization is negligent in operating the range under their own rules and fully liable for the accident.

We make sure eye and hearing protection is at the range and available to all shooters but it is not mandatory.

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So I get "more liabiliy" by doing the right thing and making it a requirement...

Everyone should have eyes and ears without us having to tell them..Gezzz
 

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Carry a 22 bullet in my foot that reminds me how easily accidents can happen. One careless finger on a trigger, in this case it was mine.
 

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Ironworker said:
Carry a 22 bullet in my foot that reminds me how easily accidents can happen. One careless finger on a trigger, in this case it was mine.
Carried a friend out of the woods when I was a kid -- shot himself in the foot with a 22!! You don't forget something like that -- Of course, I thought he was going to die -- not much blood, but he wouldn't stop screaming!! :affraid:
 

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Here is my club's rules modified for personal use.

"1. No alcohol is allowed on this facility.

2. All weapon actions must be open when not shooting. Do
not load weapon until in the firing position.

3. Eye protection and ear protection are required at all times,
on all ranges, even by spectators.

4. Firing weapons at any unauthorized target isn't permitted.

5. Pick up all trash/debris and empty casings prior to leaving the
proeprty; to include removal of all targets (cans,cardboard,etc).

6. Do not touch anyone’s weapon without permission.

7. Do not shoot at any glass products.

8. Do not place live ammunition on the ground or in trash containers.

9. Do not shoot in front of the shooting line when other shooters are present.

10. Shoot “straight on” . Don’t shoot across other shooting
positions.

11. Do not go downrange without clearing weapons and communicating (“range is cold”) your intentions with all shooters.

12. Do not handle weapons for any reason when people are downrange (“range is cold”)

13. When shooting black powder weapons, shoot downwind of other shooters.

14. Do not shoot at any wildlife.

27. Each person is responsible for monitoring and enforcing range
safety rules.
 
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