Real World price check on Polytech Legend
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Man, even at the shows, I've seen'em running $1,500 and up. Most of the ones I've seen in past years at the shows are not in good condition. Never saw a PolyTech Legend for any cheaper, because if I did, I'd own it! I've been looking for one for some time now.
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These are some might fine AKs -- as I have heard and read about. Seems that $1100 - $1500 is about normal if you want one ...
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I understand, but I see it like someone who collects a Lexus versus a "real" Luxury car, (Mercedes).Stonewall said:
I own two Chinese Maks (Norinco), and for the price I'd take a safe full of them over a Polytech or two...
It's not just a Polytech thing, I'd love to have a Polytech M14. I also own Chinese optics, I love my Primary Arms red dot...
I just see Chinese goods for what they are, cheap copies of the real thing.
Right. A Chinese MAK90 or Polytech is no more a "cheap copy of the real thing" than is a Bulgarian, Romanian, Polish, East German, Yugoslavian, or Hungarian variant of an AKM or AK47. So, what is your point?1985 4runner said:
Both the variants marketed here as "Norinco's" and those marketed as "Polytech's" are higher quality firearms than just about any other AKM/AK47 variant we in this country have access to, including the overpriced ones offered by Arsenal USA. How does that make them cheap copies?
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My point is my $80 Chinese Primary Arms micro dot is a Chinese copy of a $600 Aimpoint micro dot.
Similarly, a Polytech AK-47/S is a Chinese copy, (version, variant, or whatever term you choose to use) of a Kalashnikov Automatic Rifle, 1947 Model.
Beyond that, I honestly don't know how to make it any simpler than that. I'm I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected.
My first post may have gotten a bit off topic, but I think the "real world price" on a polytech is inflated, (but this includes lots of other firearms as well).
The Kalashnikov is a soldiers weapon. A peasant's weapon, a working man's weapon. It should be in the realm of affordability, which the Polytech (at least here & now) is not.
Yes, I'd love to own one, but at $1200-$1500+ that isn't going to happen.
Similarly, a Polytech AK-47/S is a Chinese copy, (version, variant, or whatever term you choose to use) of a Kalashnikov Automatic Rifle, 1947 Model.
Beyond that, I honestly don't know how to make it any simpler than that. I'm I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected.
My first post may have gotten a bit off topic, but I think the "real world price" on a polytech is inflated, (but this includes lots of other firearms as well).
The Kalashnikov is a soldiers weapon. A peasant's weapon, a working man's weapon. It should be in the realm of affordability, which the Polytech (at least here & now) is not.
Yes, I'd love to own one, but at $1200-$1500+ that isn't going to happen.
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Polytech value
I normally do not chime in on these strings, but I feel compelled. Seems like many of the Polytech posters are either a) misinformed or b) too young to have lived through the AK ban years. I bought my first AK in 1987. A Norinco stamper that was a decent weapon. I have owned Norincos, Maadi's, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Polytech, Polytech Legends, several Norinco clones, and various oddities (Valmet, Galil). I have fired several other AKs and have studied these weapons for years (ballistics, reliability, accuracy, value, and ergonomics). The Polytech Legends are hands down the best, for several reasons:
1) Milled construction
2) 'Most' wear components are chromed
3) Forged components were needed
4) stamped parts where weight reduction will not sacrifice reliability
5) 'length of pull' fits most US shooters (big farm boys)
6) reliability / dependability
7) accuracy
8) Polytech mags have chromed followers (big plus in wet environments)
Some experience I have gained over the years:
1) NEVER buy a parts guy - avoid frankenstein guns built from a mix-match of parts (they are unreliable with questionable safety)
2) Older guns are better - period. They are better quality - period.
3) You will not be able to carry a 'safe full' of MAK90's in hopes that you can borrow parts from one to keep another functional (by the way, youngsters, an MAK90 is not a pre-ban). The day I put an MAK90 in my collection will be the day I trade my dog in for a cat.
I have jammed Norincos in field tests, in fact, I have jammed every AK with the exception of the Polytechs, Hungarian Pre-ban, and the Polytech Legends. I have tested the receivers and bolts after being dropped in sand, mud, snow and ice, and various debris. The Polytechs and Hungarians (pre-bans) will continue to eat a steady diet of any ammo with the debris mentioned above. I really like the Norinco 84S (in 223) because it is fun to shoot, but it has proven unreliable. Keep in mind, that Mr. Kalashnikov designed the rifle around the M43 round (7.62x39). I have owned AKs in 223 and 308, but if you want reliability, stick to 7.62x39.
If you can get a Polytech or Polytech Legend for $1500-$2000, buy it -- it will be the last AK you will ever need (only after having it examined by a reputable gun smith ). I would not trade one Polytech Legend for 20 parts guns. If you have doubts after you buy a Polytech, start purchasing springs and other parts that may fail. That way, in the field, you will have spare parts in the event that something should fail.
My thoughts -- take it or leave it.
I normally do not chime in on these strings, but I feel compelled. Seems like many of the Polytech posters are either a) misinformed or b) too young to have lived through the AK ban years. I bought my first AK in 1987. A Norinco stamper that was a decent weapon. I have owned Norincos, Maadi's, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Polytech, Polytech Legends, several Norinco clones, and various oddities (Valmet, Galil). I have fired several other AKs and have studied these weapons for years (ballistics, reliability, accuracy, value, and ergonomics). The Polytech Legends are hands down the best, for several reasons:
1) Milled construction
2) 'Most' wear components are chromed
3) Forged components were needed
4) stamped parts where weight reduction will not sacrifice reliability
5) 'length of pull' fits most US shooters (big farm boys)
6) reliability / dependability
7) accuracy
8) Polytech mags have chromed followers (big plus in wet environments)
Some experience I have gained over the years:
1) NEVER buy a parts guy - avoid frankenstein guns built from a mix-match of parts (they are unreliable with questionable safety)
2) Older guns are better - period. They are better quality - period.
3) You will not be able to carry a 'safe full' of MAK90's in hopes that you can borrow parts from one to keep another functional (by the way, youngsters, an MAK90 is not a pre-ban). The day I put an MAK90 in my collection will be the day I trade my dog in for a cat.
I have jammed Norincos in field tests, in fact, I have jammed every AK with the exception of the Polytechs, Hungarian Pre-ban, and the Polytech Legends. I have tested the receivers and bolts after being dropped in sand, mud, snow and ice, and various debris. The Polytechs and Hungarians (pre-bans) will continue to eat a steady diet of any ammo with the debris mentioned above. I really like the Norinco 84S (in 223) because it is fun to shoot, but it has proven unreliable. Keep in mind, that Mr. Kalashnikov designed the rifle around the M43 round (7.62x39). I have owned AKs in 223 and 308, but if you want reliability, stick to 7.62x39.
If you can get a Polytech or Polytech Legend for $1500-$2000, buy it -- it will be the last AK you will ever need (only after having it examined by a reputable gun smith ). I would not trade one Polytech Legend for 20 parts guns. If you have doubts after you buy a Polytech, start purchasing springs and other parts that may fail. That way, in the field, you will have spare parts in the event that something should fail.
My thoughts -- take it or leave it.
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Polytech is the only AK worth owning
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