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Argue or opinion. Love how if its in opposition its argument . 🤦‍♂️

I'll run with my quickload program.



Exactly you get it.
If a person has a different opinion and wants to express it and/or change someone else's opinion, how are they not arguing FOR their opinion?

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QuickLoad has gotten a lot of good reviews and I thought about buying it at one time. When I started shooting CAS and pretty much stopped shotting anything else, I decided against it.

It's been my limited experience that people that live and breathe QuickLoad are more than happy to share their findings. 🤷‍♀️
 

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I have always been a very cautious reloader when it comes to approaching max loads. That being said, with W748 in both .223 and .308, there is a wide range of listed max loads between various manuals. I have no experience with it in other calibers. for the loads I have tried, max is listed in a couple manuals as compressed. Listed max in others are not compressed. If you can compress it and be well under listed max pressure for a given cartridge, it is logical to come to the conclusion that some manuals either or overly cautious (Hornady) or they didn’t actually test the listed load. So far, based on my somewhat limited testing with this powder, I am perfectly ok with exceeding some manuals’ listed max loads, while still staying under the listed max in another. I get good groups in that “in between” spot and see no reason to go any higher. I read somewhere that W748 generally gives best results near max and so far I have found that to be true. Magnum primers are best with this powder.

There is an old article entitled “Why Ballisticians Go Gray” in one of my manuals that addresses the common discrepancies between manuals. The old advice of “start low and work up, watching for pressure signs is always good practice.
 

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I always start in the middle charge and go up in 0.5 or 1gr increments till i see pressure. Then record that info on the powder bottle. Chamber differences, bore differences, powder scale differences, primer differences, case differences, Neck tension differences, temperature differences all come into play so nothing is ever set in stone.
 

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I personally like old manuals because the data is more accurate and reflective of actual performance and has not been adulterated or adjusted (by sometimes as much as 20%) in order to placate our very litigious society we currently live in.
you can compare load data (powder and bullet weight) from a 1975 manual with the exact same specs published online now with completely different reduced quantities data.
I think everybody that reloads should own several old manuals, and if you do not have any eBay always does.
 
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