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I've needed smaller diameter wheels that what I had, I would just use the wheel on a metal or stone surface until I had the diameter I wanted. Also if the wrong loctite was used you might have to use some heat to get it out. I would try getting the screwdriver hot as h*** and putting it to the screw.
 

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You might use a small ez out and drive it in the allen head and get the screw out.
 

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They make some type of "screw removal" tool for this purpose..look around at HD or Lowes...if I valued the gun much I'd take it to a good smith before I "buggered" up the receiver getting em out
+1 on taking to a smith, if you bugger up the holes you can get them wallowed out and they wont be centered. I think last time i had one drilled out and rethreaded it was about 25 or $30 bucks.
 

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I bought the screw removal tool and it didn't work. It's the screws holding the rings together and not the base. Think I'm going to drill out the screws and buy new rings. Cheaper and easier.
 

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i bought a set of left hand drill bits for screw removal, just run the drill in reverse very slowly as the bit tries to cut it will usually get a bite and back the screw right out.
 

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Torx works

I just tried your idea of the Torx driver.
1st center drilled the broken off screw
Next broke off e-z out bit from Lowe's (real high quality - not)
work an hour getting broke ez out out of gun
drive Torx bit into hole with tap hammer
heat torx bit up to very hot with alcohol lamp
broken off screws come right out
This idea WORKS :2tup:
 

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When I have a problem like that, I will use a product like BreakFree and spray it heavy over the screw head and let it set for 24 hours, then start back working on it.Also works great on rusted bolts on tractor discs and outdoor equipment. Good to hear that you got it.
 

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If they're Allen head screws you can also sometimes drive the next larger metric size into them if they're standard to start with. Depending on which standard size they are, often the nearest bigger metric will only be a hair bigger and will drive into the socket tightly with a few light taps from a small hammer.

Then, once you get them broken loose and free turning, tap the metric wrench back out with the hammer while the screw has still got most of the threads engaged so you don't end up with the dreaded "allen-screw-stuck-on-the-wrench-with-no-way-to-get-it-off" syndrome.

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I think I would stay with drilling the entire screw head out before cutting the rings and screw in half with a Dremmel. I seem to be blessed with having the cutting wheel getting in a bind and "jumping" somewhere I really don't want it to be.
The screws that I had a problem with were in the receiver, holding the base to the rifle. I tried a bunch of things such as soaking, break-free oils/lubes, etc. I'll stay with the Torx bit or allen wrench along with heat.
 

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I saw an article in "Family Handiman" this month about stripped allen screws: said to put a dab of valve grinding compounding on the end of the wrench to take up the slack and apply down pressure while removing. Probably won't work if you have completely rounded out the hole. Have not tried yet, but sounds reasonable... Just sayin'...
 
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