How did it do on them there ducks ... at what range we you blasting 'em? Over decoys?Richard said:Used some Winchester "Black Clouds" this year on ducks and geese. #2 in 3 1/2". These have the sharp ring around the pellet.These are now in my bedroom gun. The steel kicks less than the lead equivalent and looses some HP at longer ranges. However, at self defense range I believe it would be a moot point.