I like the Wichester supreme turkey loads but my Mossy is loaded with Federal 8 pellet low recoil flight control wads.....Pretty badazz round with one nice tight pattern at 20-25 ft which is all I'll ever need....I hope.....Those personal defense rounds are a marketing skeem and are way out of reality in price, cause you can get Winchester Ranger 9 pellet low recoil 25 rounds for less than that..I have found a hot lil load in a cheap package with the RIO low recoil 8 and 9 pellet...check em out.. Hornady Blue hulls are pretty tough also but for the price and good quality 00 you cant go wrong with RIO>>>