[righttoown]

Didn’t know Academy Sports was selling stripped lowers. Not a bad price. I have never seen Savage stripped lowers for sale.

 

[rigrat]

Now if they would carry the $39-49 dollar Anderson lowers and uppers.

 

[shoeshooter]

Now if they would carry the $39-49 dollar Anderson lowers and uppers.

Yeah, but walk in, buy, walk out. No transfer fee. Looks like a winner to me.

 

[para40]

Both are probably Anderson anyway.

 

[rigrat]

Both are probably Anderson anyway.

Not the inexpensive price ones though.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

Well PSA $39 lowers ship free plus $25 fee is $64
Primary arms anderson $29 lowers plus shipping plus $25 fee is about the same.
So $69 plus tax isn't too bad. Like said above can walk in and walk out with it now waiting.

 

[2DARK2C]

more likely both ruger

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

I was just in Hattiesburg Academy this morning I should've looked in there

 

[2DARK2C]

I doubt anderson is casting lowers, but I might be wrong.

 

[jakeg823]

I doubt anderson is casting lowers, but I might be wrong.

Does anyone cast lowers anymore? It’s an inferior process and at this point doesn’t make sense, since forged lowers are so cheap.

Exactly though, there’s still a relatively small number of receiver forgeries. MOST manufacturers finish(final machining and anodizing) the lowers themselves, which is where the differences come in.

 

[Quickeye]

Forgings are usually sent to rifle manufacturers who do final machining and stamp their names and serial numbers.
Here's most of the major forging outfits:
Anchor Harvey
Brass Al Forge
Mueller Ind.
Cardinal
Cerro Forge
Alcoa
Kaiser
Armalite
Martin Marietta
Precision
Diemco
When sold as an upper/lower unit, the upper usually has a symbol on it just below the rail or carry handle in bas relief, indicating the origin of the forging.
Cerro, for example, is a "key hole" looking symbol, or "K" Kaiser, "M" for Martin Marietta, a perfect small square for Brass Al Forgings and so forth.
Sometimes the upper will have two symbols, the first is for the origin of the forging, the second is for the company that machines it. Before the "1913""rails" became standardized in 1995, Weaver rails were also utilized for attachments/accessories. The crenels and merlons of the rails are differently spaced. The forger's mark helped identify which was which,

 

[2DARK2C]

I guess I assumed ruger casts their AR receivers like it had cast others even steel. I know they used to "investment cast" which is the same process (on a much grander scale) I have done with jewelry. I had also read/heard years ago that ruger was already casting AR receivers for other man. before they came out with their own AR. I also read around 2008 that there were only 3-4 receiver manufacturers, just like quickeye confirmed above.

so forging can mean different things. to me a forged receiver is made from a block of metal then milled out. I thought AR forged receivers were the same, and that's why they cost more than say Anderson.

are you saying that most AR receivers are being milled, how I understand it?
or are forged AR receivers another process?

 

[2DARK2C]

this gives a good breakdown.

Best AR-15 Lower Receivers [2018]: Budget to Baller - Pew Pew Tactical

what I was calling forged, is billet in the AR world. and forged is like a hammer forged barrel, pushing the metal into shape then some milling to get it the right size.

learn something new every day

 

[TheBouncer1111]

I thought "forged" meant the the metal is poured into two molds...a left and a right.....then mashed, or forged together.

while a casting or a milling is a solid block that is milled down

but i could be completely wrong

 

[2DARK2C]

so i'm wondering now about my "milled" arsenal AK . I thought it was "forged" as in forged in fire and then milled (billet in AR land). maybe it was "forged" into a form close to an AK receiver then finished off.

 

[2DARK2C]

check the link I posted for a good breakdown in AR world. as far as other rifle types and common vernacular of the users, I think many terms overlap.

 

[2DARK2C]

Does anyone cast lowers anymore?

I think that's the case jake. this comparison doesn't even mention cast.
Best AR-15 Lower Receiver Buying Guide | AR-15 Nerd

 

[2DARK2C]

indeed ruger lists both their upper and lower as forged.

 

[jakeg823]

indeed ruger lists both their upper and lower as forged.

I figured if anyone did cast, and did it well, it would be Ruger.

 

[2DARK2C]

i remember there being some confusion with FAL receivers, forged vs. cast , and how both "could" be good if done right. same with FN hi powers, the newer ones being cast and actually stronger than the older (forged,milled,at this point?). the switch due to cracking frames with the .40 version.