[rigrat]

Have been thinking about getting a suppressor but don't know anything about the subject. Not sure what would be the best caliber to buy for either. AR in 223, lever 45 colt, 9mm for the new Dagger? The one for 9mm would it work on say a .357?
As far as paperwork I'd like a trust so I could add my wife and grown kids to it. Haven't a clue on any of that either. If you do a one shot trust can you add people after and how hard is it? Or is there a easier way of doing it.

So any of you guys that are suppressor literate please school me up a little bit.

 

[Twang]

@Subsonix @onlymaroonmatters


I think the .223 could also be used on a .22 LR.
I don't have one yet either, but I think my first will either be a .22 for my Keltec P-17, or a .30 caliber for my .300 BlackOut pistol.

 

[rigrat]

Yeah I am totally in the dark on this subject. So I appreciate the input.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

30 caliber for sure. To cover most of your bases. Except for the 45 colt. And look at what all mounts you’ll need before you buy. They add up quick. As far as adding people to a trust, never done it before so only speculation, it’s just mailing in a simple form along with their finger prints.
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[scott511]

Have been thinking about getting a suppressor but don't know anything about the subject. Not sure what would be the best caliber to buy for either. AR in 223, lever 45 colt, 9mm for the new Dagger? The one for 9mm would it work on say a .357?
As far as paperwork I'd like a trust so I could add my wife and grown kids to it. Haven't a clue on any of that either. If you do a one shot trust can you add people after and how hard is it? Or is there a easier way of doing it.

So any of you guys that are suppressor literate please school me up a little bit.

You're probably going to want separate suppressors based on those calibers. A .30 rifle and .45 pistol would cover all those and then some; say if you wanted to add a 45acp.
Sorry, I have no advice on the trust stuff as none of mine are on trusts.

Twang,
A 223 can could work on a 22, but the problem is leading. Most rifle cans are not user serviceable meaning they can't be taken apart. If you shoot 22 suppressed you WILL want a can that can be taken apart and cleaned.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

Look for Black Friday deals next weekend. Might even catch one that comes with a free rimfire can.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

I have an Optimus and love it. Run it on my 223s, 9mm glocks, 300bo ar and bolt, and my 308 rifle. Could run it on 22s but it’s a little big for that and that’s why I have dedicated rimfire cans. Mounts aren’t too expensive and have direct thread adapters can use.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

This would cover all your bases

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[Subsonix]

A trust is recommended and very easy to do. It's just words on paper. I suggest only having yourself on the trust until you get your suppressor(s). You can always add your family later and avoid having to submit paperwork. All trustees have to submit fingerprints, photos, and responsible person questionnaires each time a suppressor is added to the trust.

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[John Harvey]

If you go 30 cal, I can strongly recommend the CGS Hyperion 7.62. I run it on a 300 win mag and it’s crazy quiet. All you really hear is the sonic crack, sounds like shooting a .22 rifle, hearing-safe. I shot a doe at 275 yds this AM and the others just stood there.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

If you go 30 cal, I can strongly recommend the CGS Hyperion 7.62. I run it on a 300 win mag and it’s crazy quiet. All you really hear is the sonic crack, sounds like shooting a .22 rifle, hearing-safe. I shot a doe at 275 yds this AM and the others just stood there.

Run it on a handgun?

 

[John Harvey]

Run it on a handgun?

I wouldn’t, it’s 15 oz and over 9” long

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

I wouldn’t, it’s 15 oz and over 9” long

will it accept a booster assembly? Don’t have much experience with them. Know they do great on gas guns to help reduce gas back issues.

 

[John Harvey]

will it accept a booster assembly? Don’t have much experience with them. Know they do great on gas guns to help reduce gas back issues.

Not sure, what cal are you considering?

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

Not sure, what cal are you considering?

Oh I’m not considering. My Next can purchase will be a YHM turbo T2. And then a dedicated 9mm can either dead air, griffin, or rugged.

 

[cs700]

1st suggestion is to see what firearms you have with threaded barrels now. Then decided what you are going shoot the most of that has suppressor capability. If you have a rimfire threaded barrel firearm then that's where I suggest starting. A Dead Air Mask HD is the #1 rated rimfire suppressor. Matched with .22lr 45gr suppressor ammo is the quietest thing I've ever shot. Suppressors can open up a whole new expensive can of worms but fun.

 

[onlymaroonmatters]

1st suggestion is to see what firearms you have with threaded barrels now. Then decided what you are going shoot the most of that has suppressor capability. If you have a rimfire threaded barrel firearm then that's where I suggest starting. A Dead Air Mask HD is the #1 rated rimfire suppressor. Matched with .22lr 45gr suppressor ammo is the quietest thing I've ever shot. Suppressors can open up a whole new expensive can of worms but fun.

+1 on the mask. I wish I had a few more. Eventually

 

[phillipl8]

A trust is the recommended way to go. More than one person can and should be on the trust. ( my opinion ). If something were to happen to someone on the trust, they would be removed and someone else on the trust would take possession. Any of the trustee's could use items in the trust. It basically lets more than one person have ownership, use, and the ability to transfer without buying another tax stamp. Just add or remove from trust. My understanding.

 

[Myers]

Generally, it is sound advice to buy three. A 22 can, 30cal can, and a 45 can. Those will cover most of your bases, save for some oddball bigbore stuff. The one size fits all cans like the Griffin Bushwacker as an example are cool from the standpoint that they can literally be one can to rule them all, just at the end of the day that kind of functionality isn't all that practical. YMMV.

In regards to a trust, the only people who have to submit prints are whoever the "responsible persons" are on the trust, AKA trustees. It is generally understood that you can add trustees to a trust with a simple amendment (Silencershop's single shot trust for example comes with a pre-made amendment for adding trustees) after the form 4 has been approved without having to send in additional paperwork.

 

[JoseyWalesII]

I went down the suppressor rabbit hole and ended up with several. I would go with direct thread and avoid the "fast attach" or "QD -Quick detach" style that requires a proprietary muzzle device. I have three "fast attach" style from different companies, and one went bankrupt with Remington so the muzzle devices are hard to find, and another changed their design for a new improved design thus mine are discontinued, and again I gotta scratch one up wherever I can find one. Direct thread eliminates this inevitable hassle, shoulda woulda.

Dead Air makes a fine .22 suppressor, but you can get a Ruger for 1/2 the price. I would start with a .22 and "standard velocity" ammo (which is subsonic) and have fun. You can put a .22 suppressor on a pistol without boosters and pistons and all of that jim-crackery. That crap drives me as crazy as fiddling with friction rings on a Browning A5, and I have two that I love. .22 ammo is filthy, if you're OCD you'll be cleaning your suppressor............... a lot.

For rifle, a 5.56/.223 isn't going to be that quiet because of the supersonic crack, but it'll be quiet enough that you won't need ear protection.
.30 caliber is great because you can jump on the .300 Blackout bandwagon and shoot subsonic, hugely fun and truly silent. And/or get an AR-Upper in 7.62X39 and shoot a lot cheaply, yet noisier.

Oh yeah, let me rant on the AR platform and suppressors, direct impingement = facial gas blast and filthy magazines and filthy ammo in the magazines and filthy brass. Booooooooo
might as well factor in a Griffin Armament SN-ACH suppressor normalized charging handle to minimize the gas blast.
Or piston driven AR upper, or adjustable gas block, or your favorite plan B, or get used to gas blast, wear eye protection, the right eye (for right handed folks) gets a beatdown.

Bolt gun has none of those hassles. .300 blackout (subsonic) sounds about like Pfffft

Pistol suppressor above .22 are not my thing, 9mm suppressor on a shoulder fired gun like CZ EVO, Colt AR9mm, Ruger PC9 is in the fun zone.

Are you going to primarily shoot at a formal range or private property where anything goes?

It's past my bedtime, starting to ramble.