[samiam]

Do any of you have a Swedish ag42 Ljungman rifle and what kind of compitition can I shoot mine in. I am new at this so please excuse my ignorance. My Ljugman is about mint and should be a good compition gun. Thanks

 

[samiam]

I was doing some research on the gun and it was imported by Century Arms International, St. Albins, Vermont, USA. in 1987.
I putchased it in the early 90's for $190.00. I sure miss the days of cheap Mil-Surp. my swedish M-96 and M-38 where $100.00 each.

 

[jbpmidas]

Can you post some pictures and more details about your rifle?

 

[samiam]

I will as soon as i get a new camera. also I just notices there is not a brass disk in the stock. there not even a place to put one. Blueing is about 99%, stock is blond and like new.

 

[samiam]

About 30,000 where made.
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/swed/ag-42-ljungman-e.html

 

[jbpmidas]

Is yours 6.5x55?

 

[samiam]

Yes, I love anything 6.5x55 The swedish got it right when they made that round

 

[jbpmidas]

I have heard good things about it. It is interesting that many of the target rounds today are 6.5.

 

[samiam]

Yeah its getting a little harder to find. but there is still plenty on line and at gun shows

 

[samiam]

Do you know if M 1 Garand shoots I have read about on here are for just for M 1 Garands. The Ljungman Is the swedish version of the M 1 Garand.

 

[M1GarandFan]

Nope, you can bring that rifle to a Garand Match at Magnolia Rifle & Pistol Club and compete with it. I don't have ammo available to sell for that rifle though. Bring out to the match we're having on March 19th :thumbup: and give it a try. :gun:

 

[samiam]

Cool Thats great M1GarandFan. I will try and make it. I need to get some 6.5x55 match ammo. What different rifles can compete.

 

[M1GarandFan]

Any military-style rifle can be used in the Garand Matches (i.e. M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, 1903 Springfields, M1a/M14, AR-15s, etc). They just have to have iron sites on them. Here link with detailed information about it:

http://www.msgunowners.com/t12021-highpower-match-course-of-fire

 

[Doug Bowser]

When I had a gun shop I had 12 of the AG-42B rifles. I fired them with Swedish Ball and reloaded ammo. I found them very accurate. Capable of close to MOA at 200 yards from the prone with sling. One thing you need to be careful of, the dreaded Ljungman Thumb. Twice as bad as an M1 Thumb.

I wrote a book about Swedish Service Rifles "Neutrality through Marksmanship". I have copies available. There is a LOT of shooting and reloading info in my book.

Doug Bowser

 

[shoeshooter]

I putchased it in the early 90's for $190.00.

Want to triple your money?

Bring it out, I would love to see one. Is this the one the Hakim was based on?

 

[samiam]

Thanks doug Yes I have experianced the Ljungman thumb when i first got the rifle and its no laughing matter. as I said earlier in the post I have a M96, M38 as well as the Ljungman. and love them all. I have been into old military Rifles all my life, I also have a MK1 and Mk4 enfields, a K98, a russain sks and mosian sniper. I dont know if it is real or a reproduction I purchased it in the mid 1990s I dont know if they where making reproductions then I only paid $150 for it at a pawn shop. I would like a copy of you book how much are they.

 

[samiam]

@shoeshooter
Yes the Hakim was based on the Ljungman and I have also heard the gas system on the M16/AR15 was based on the Ljungman but I'm not sure about that.
Thanks for the offer but no thanks, LOL. One advantage of buying these old guns years ago is the right to brag about how little we paid for them. God I miss those days. SKS's for $69.00 AK"s for $90.00 AR's for $200.00. If only I knew I would have invested in guns and I would be a rich man.

 

[samiam]

@ doug
You have seen more Ljungmans than most. Have you ever seen one without the brass disk. I have looked online and have not found and info on one with out it.

 

[Doug Bowser]

@ doug
You have seen more Ljungmans than most. Have you ever seen one without the brass disk. I have looked online and have not found and info on one with out it.

I believe the AG-42 not the B model was made without the disk. There are other differences such as the absence of the Gummi-Puffer (Rubber Buffer) on the bolt carrier cover, to prevent denting the empty cases as they are ejected. It was important for the brass to be kept in good condition as the Home Guard had their empty brass reloaded by Norma.

Also Madsen made Ljungman style rifles and they were made in .30-06, 7x57mm and other military calibers. The Swedes converted some AG-42B rifles to 7.62x51 NATO but only on a test rifle basis. The AG42B was designed by Erik Eklund in Sweden.

Doug

 

[samiam]

Mine is a AG-42b and it is 6.5x55. a B is stamped into the left side of the receiver after the serial number , the dust cover (I guess thats what its called)and the rear sight are also stamped with a B. It does have the rubber buffer. On the right side of the receiver there is S.S. stamped into it. It is dated 1943. If this was an unissued rifle could it be missing the disk, thats what I"m thinking as the stock is like new with the exception of a few small dents next to the trigger on the left side. This rifle is like new. almost no wear, all matching numbers, Blueing 99%,