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I am in the market for a pistol and looked at the 24/7 compact, pro millennium, and 709 slim. I am going with the slim because it is easeir to conceal. I have read alot of forums and it looks like most like the pro millennium better than the 24/7.
 

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I have been doing some research on this gun, and wanted to know if any of you guys know anything about it. Pros? Cons?
I have the 24/7 OSS model in 40 cal. This is essentially the same gun as the 24/7 Pro, but with a longer slide/barrel, and a decocker. I've had it several months and I'm still working up loads for it. Absolutely no malfunctions so far with a smattering of factory loads (180-gr Winchester JHP white box and 155-gr Remington JHP) and also my handloads (all using Rem 155-gr JHP). Probably about 150 rounds total through the gun so far.

Pros:
You can carry it decocked.
You can carry it cocked.
You can carry it with the safety on or off in either of the above configurations.
It has a ridge that sticks out which is painted red so you can see or feel that there is one in the chamber.
It has another red ridge that, if sticking out, tells you that the gun is cocked.
The grip is somewhat narrow, and fits smaller hands well.
It has a lifetime warranty so if something ever goes wrong you can send it back to Taurus and they repair it for free.
The "double action" trigger pull is smooth and doesn't require a lot of force.
The trigger reset is short so you can learn to shoot pretty fast.
I love the three dot tritium night sights (optional).
No external hammer.

Cons:
It's a Taurus, so you are kinda taking your chances that it will work right when you get it.
It's big and heavy.
Mags are expensive (approx $35 each) and it only comes with two.
The "double action" trigger pull is really long.
Some of these guns come with the Heine "straight eight" two-dot sight system, which very few people like.
No external hammer.

HTH.
 

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BTW, have you been to the site www.taurusarmed.net? When I was considering this gun I started hanging out there, and there are a lot of knowledgeable folks there with lots of Taurus experience. Yes there are a lot of people there complaining about problems with their Taurus guns, but in the end, it seemed to me Taurus was fixing their problems, so I decided to take the plunge and buy one. Glad I did.
 

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Some other Pros I forgot to mention in previous post ...

If you pull the trigger and the round doesn't go bang, you can pull the trigger again (double action) and the firing pin will restrike the primer. You can do this as many times as you want.
It has a rail for adding lights/lasers/etc.
It has contours in the frame to reinforce good trigger discipline (i.e. it gives you a place to put your trigger finger when not firing).
If you have kids around, you can lock the gun so that it can't fire using a little key that comes with the gun.
The decocker/safety is on both sides of the slide.
You can switch the mag release to the other side for lefties.

And finally, here's a pic of my 24/7 OSS...

 

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I've owned a 24/7 40 cal in the past. It's an ok little pistol so I'm not going to beat up on it too much. The double-strike capability is nice. However, if you're looking for a GOOD carry gun you'll be better served with a Glock or XD. The polymer frame Khar is very nice as well if you're looking for something slim. In my opinion you'd be much better off to spend a little more money and take a step up from the Taurus.
 

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Caleb C said:
I've owned a 24/7 40 cal in the past. It's an ok little pistol so I'm not going to beat up on it too much. The double-strike capability is nice. However, if you're looking for a GOOD carry gun you'll be better served with a Glock or XD. The polymer frame Khar is very nice as well if you're looking for something slim. In my opinion you'd be much better off to spend a little more money and take a step up from the Taurus.
I'd like to hear the specifics on what makes the Glock/XD/Kahr a better carry gun. I hear a lot of generalities about why one gun is "better" than another, but the choice of a gun is dependent on a multitude of factors, and which of those factors are most important to that individual. BTW, I'm not a Taurus fanatic and I'm not angry that you prefer something else (I had a Glock 23 and I can't say enough good things about it). But it would be helpful if you could tell us why you consider Glock/XD/Kahr to be better carry guns.
 

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It's mostly personal preference. I like the weight and dependability of Glock. I like the clean breaking trigger on the XD. I like the Kahr because of it's weight, thin profile, and super smooth DOA trigger. I like them ALL because all you have to do is draw the pistol and go to work (no manual safety).

I have a tremendous amount of respect for what Taurus has been able to accomplish over the years regarding their manufacturing process. They are turning out some really nice stuff these days. They just don't offer what I'm looking for in a defensive carry gun.
 

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They still need a little better QC in my opinion. I don't have a lot of faith in their magazines. They don't seem to be quite as well made as other manufacturers. If they had MecGar make there mags they might do better, again in MY opinion.
 

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swede62 said:
They still need a little better QC in my opinion. I don't have a lot of faith in their magazines. They don't seem to be quite as well made as other manufacturers. If they had MecGar make there mags they might do better, again in MY opinion.
I totally agree about the Taurus QC issues. My 24/7 runs great, but years ago I bought two of those tiny little 22LR pistols, and all 4 mags were bad. (I told Taurus about it and they sent me four new ones that work fine.) And if you read TaurusArmed.net, there are way too many guns going out that are not ready to run. The nice part is that they will make it right, but it's a hassle, no doubt about it.
 
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