[Rbelote]

How many of you train in what you wear daily?
It is smart to train in a suit if thats what you wear etc. train every now and then in dress shoes or boots or tennis shoes.
Also train in other job specific stuff like if your a cop train with a vest on, because it restricts movement unless you dont have your tauma plate it. Alot of stuff you can do in a shirt and shorts you cant do in pants and a vest.

 

[GunOneDown]

good post. something one should think about for sure. :thumbup:

 

[Rbelote]

Yes sir. It would be a bad day if you trained in loose clothes, but then say a sport coat kept you from reaching your gun or weapon fast enough etc.

 

[msredneck]

Good Topic...Yeah boy...its real easy to get tangled up in coats and jackets, vests and stuff

You need to practice with what you wear. You need to practice moving and on the move...Aint none of you gonna be standing still in a weaver stance in a real gun fight.

You need to practice laying on the ground...laying on your back

and most importantly you need to practice one-handed...you will be using the other to ward off an attack won't you?

What about weak hand?...what if your dominant hand is injured?

can you shoot well left handed...Do you practice this way?

Do you have a BUG...can you switch to the BUG quickly if your primary gun goes down...what's plan B if plan A fails..and it very well may.

 

[Beladran]

Its just my 2cents but I feel in very close combat going for your pistol can get you hurt. Get in a martial arts class and start learning some self defense. I would say if most of you were 10-15 feet away from me with your pistol in your holster and me with a knife 90% of you would not be coming home for dinner. Just something to toss out there.

 

[Rbelote]

I dont know Beladrans knife skill, because we have only been able to shoot together and not train ma together. If he cuts like he shoots then he is pretty good. He is right though alot of the cops that train with my group cssdsc use a 31 ft rule now, because most of us can get to them to quickly at 21.

 

[Rbelote]

Also as neck said it is important to train one handed, and to make sure you dont flag your other arm with your muzzle. Its like marking blades. You dont use marking blades to see where you cut your training partner; you use them to see how many times you messed up and cut yourself. :affraid:

 

[Beladran]

yea its always good to have another option. Im glad they are moving back to 31 feet. If you think about it from dead still to a full sprint you can cover 20 feet in just a couple seconds which is alot quicker than your brain can process whats going on if your caught off guard. Rob what do your training buddies recommend doing at close distances? I have seen some people training doing a fire while retreating to give them some distance. But I think that would be a bad idea if you tripped your attacker would be on top of you have n his way with you...I would rather go to a defensive stance or charge at them, but it just depends on the situation..

 

[Cliff Cargill]

IMHO distance is a shooter's best friend...when you engage as you retreat you are creating time that that can be well used placing shots.

 

[slabsides45]

Some of the classes I've taken have stressed draw while in retreat, but never in a straight back line. Moving off to the side or angle, so they teach, creates a harder target and gives you time, especially if you're able to "stiffarm" or parry their initial contact. Never done this, mind you, just in practice.

 

[msredneck]

Gunsite training:

3 shots...2 center mass..1 to head in 3 seconds...about the time it takes a person to move 21 feet with a knife...seen lots of folk do it...with just a few days practice.

Gotta practice drawing...dry fire... dry fire.... practice....

When I'm out and about I try very hard to keep my distance

Can't do martial arts when you are fat and 50 and have a bad back already...sure wish I could...It would be another tool

 

[slabsides45]

They call that the Mozambique drill, I believe.

 

[Rbelote]

Retreat and Move off line with moving off line being the most important. Train to use your firearm as a blunt force/blocking weapon. If you just train for speed then you rely on the gun to go bang. What if it doesnt go bang? I can close atleast a 20 plus ft gap in under 3 seconds. A knife will shut down the body biomechanically; where a firearm is a blood letting device. If you dont shut down the central nervous system, it takes the body alittle while to bleed out.

 

[msredneck]

3 shots...2 center mass, 1 head shot 7 yards with a 45 ACP Corbon DPX....
what central nervous system?....Is there one left?

Love the blades...I really do..If the gun doesn't go off...the pocket rocket 357 mag goes off if I survive the 1st slash...

 

[Rbelote]

Yeah chances are you can take a cut. I just would hate to loose an arm if I could prevent it by having more tools in my tool box. And for the nay sayers out there a 3 inch blade can easily take an arm off if the user knows how to use it. It happens so quick you might not even know its gone until you try to use the hand.