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Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness/Self Sufficiency' started by ThatGuy, May 2, 2018.
Do you have one?
What's in it?
Anything specific you recommend?
Any Medical Folks, EMT's out there - Need to put together a decent gun range trauma kit - on the che
first aid kits
First Aid kit
Have quite a few. Each with different things for different situations and where they are carried/stored. Can't remember everything in them. Built up and added to as go along, only pre fab would be smaller/cheaper kits I came across and added to a bag I already had.
In my line of work it is possible someone could be gravely injured.
Punctures, sever type injuries (fingers and such), or severe cuts.
My first and top would be tourniquet(s), Israeli bandages, and some form of quick clot.
Have those in every bag/kit. Carry a RATS on my person everyday and have another one in my EDC bag that's with me at work. Also carry a tiny face mask to use in CPR for face shield in my other cargo pocket.
That was my line of thinking.
I'd also like to be able to use one of those big compression chest bandages.
Also could add a chest seal. One thing I do need to add to mine. Also going to up my kit even more with a neck collar brace.
Chest seal that's it.
We had a boy in town on another crew accidentally shoot himself in the chest with a framing nailer and he died right there on the ground because no one there had the tools or knowledge to maybe prolong his life until he could get some help.
I'd like to be able to prevent that on my crew if possible.
Annnnnd ordered. Thanks for reminding me about needed that stuff.
Oh man that's horrible. Yeah I completely understand
Have one of the quik clot kits in my range bag and another in the vehicle. They claim the plastic package can seal a chest wound.
Nail guns are dangerous, but first time I've heard of a fatality. Worst I've done is shoot most of a 16 ga finish nail straight up my thumb. Fortunately enough was protruding so I could grab it with pliers and pull it out. Went back to work, throbbing digit and all.
A guy on my framing crew caught a 12d nail in his cheek. Lucky as hell. Missed his eyes, gums, teeth, and bone. Just a hole in his cheek. Big baby had to go home for the day.
I made up our own, Israeli combat bandages, regular bandages, recently added betadyne swabs generously left by my home health nurse; large wound bandages and tape to secure same, suture kit, travel tube (about like a tube of lip balm) of ibuprofen, clot packs. Tourniquet. Not comprehensive as some mentioned but hopefully sufficient to take care of most problems and/or sustain until injured can receive more substantial care.
ETA nitrile gloves, wound closure strips, got a pack from home health care, same things they had on my chest when they glued it back together; "second skin" or whatever they call the liquid bandage stuff, and butterfly bandages to hold small wounds together, prescription grade antibiotic ointment. Had to look at the contents, thankfully haven't had to access anything but the regular band-aids in quite a while.
Hit him in the ticker.
Plenty gauze material. When I am treating a deep puncture wound on my dogs, like I am currently ;got one with some serious bite wounds now that I am treating at home under the advice of their Vet, I use Blue Nitrile Gloves. If you are going to be far away from medical help like a hunting or fishing trip, I personally would have a broad spectrum antibiotic since I am on a biologic med that lowers my immune response. Because the one that you give life saving treatment may be your beloved pet or yourself. I live 30-35 minutes from a medical facility if I drive myself.When my oldest dog got bite on her tongue about 18 months ago by a big rattlesnake, she started choking a couple times and I had to reach in and pull her tongue out till I could get her to the clinic.
If I wait for an ambulance, it can be and has been over an hour. We do have a fine fire department, but if I am 15 minutes from my house down in the woods, many times no one knows where I am. I am glad that you brought this subject up, because I need to put at least gauze in my Ranger or in the dry-box on my 4 wheeler.
I try to let friends know when I am deer hunting, because I hunt till dark, walk back part way to my 4-wheeler, then another 15 minutes till I pull up in my driveway. I also believe in 2 way radios and or cell phones but there are places here that is a dead zone.
I am not going to let health problems stop me till I just can,t go. I used to not think twice but since getting older with several health issues, it is better to be safe than sorry.
I have had to cut my t-shirt to stop bleeding when I was a teenager and hunting and closed a double barrel on the web of my left hand, the farmer poured some kerosene on it and it healed up with no stitches. Just try to keep a cool head and not panic when something bad happens
and study what to do. wasp stings, hornet stings, I killed two scorpions last night.I keep antihistimines for me and my dogs for stings. Benadryl in generic is cheap and over the counter in pharmacies. I know that you are mostly talking about shot wounds but if you have bad allergies, a bee or wasp or spider sting might kill us.
Lots of good stuff there, but if you have a life-threatening allergic reaction to stings/bites, Benadryl won't do you any good. What you need for that is an Epipen (Rather than spend far too much on one, you can make a homemade kit with a syringe and needle, and 1 vial of 0.3 mg epinephrine (0.15 mg for juveniles). Usually you can only get such things if you are prescribed such by a physician, but doesn't hurt to ask around.
Far as my kit goes (I keep it in the car, in a 1-sling backpack), I have the following. Keep in mind I'm a former EMT (though never practiced as one), so my gear may be a little more in-depth. Any suggestions to it to add?
Quick and dirty first aid guide (1)
Israeli bandages (3-5)
Pocket face mask with one-way valve (1)
Trauma shears (1)
Gauze 2x2 (1 pack)
Gauze 4x4s (8)
Pt card to write vitals, notes (4)
Activated charcoal, oral glucose (1 each)
Leatherman tool (1)
Alcohol swabs (1 pack, or ~ 50 swabs min)
Inflatable splints (4) or other splinting material
Occlusive dressings (2-3), or Vaseline-soaked gauze
Elastic wrap (4)
Super glue (2)
Poison remover (e.g. snakebite) (1)
Burn Gel (2)
Antibiotic cream (3)
OTC meds: Aspirin, Benadryl, Tylenol/Motrin, Ibuprofen, Imodium, cold meds, electrolyte pack, water filter (1 bottle each with min 2 filters and 5 lyte packs)
Gloves, 3 pr each size (M, L, XL)
Mirror (for e.g. signaling. Can use old CD)
Throw in a whistle too
Tape (wide silk e.g. 3 inch and duct (e.g. for holding splints together)).
Nasopharyngeal airway, multiple sizes, 1 of each
Water-based lubricant (4)
Adjustable cervical collar (1)
I am allergic to a lot of things, I was not talking about the people that need the Dexamathazone, and adrenalin stuff, I am talking about the regular Joe, Like you, like me, A scorpion sting, or wasp sting will ruin your day, it probably won,t kill you. You have to be fighting for your life to survive for food, for clean water or to fight an enemy. Benadryl, and Chlor-Trimeton are a first line defense that are given along with steroids.
But if you don,t have bad allergies, where your throat closes, heart stops, you should not take the epi-pen.My system changed in the last 35 years, or I learned to stay away from the things that put me in the Er back in the 80s.If you want to do a scientific test, I have plenty wild scorpions. Let me tell you they sting like a mule kicks.
If you do have immune responses you should be under the care or an Allergy and Immunology Specialist. I knew of a man that just got stung by a bee or wasp and was given the epi-pen and it did not save him, other wise he was a healthy strong man in his 30s. But we should do the best that we can and do all that we can to save who we can.
The worst bite or sting that I had was a brown recluse spider that stung me on my back.Keflex,Doxycycline, Amoxcillin are good first line antibiotics, but if there is a biological weapon, you might need something stronger. Ticks carry a lot of bad stuff. The plague, we had an outbreak in Western states a couple years ago.It was contained to a camping area.
Alcohol, Neosporine, Doxycycline when given soon after can save the person from infectious mediated forms of arthritis, or neurological damage.One of the Floxin antibiotics for severe stuff. After an incubation period, hospitalization,with IV antibiotics is the therapy. Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Lyme Disease being some of the culprits. Staph infections, Mrsa infections, Pulmonary infections.
So a Medrol Dose Pac also might be warranted. Even for people that don,t have the severe reactions. If you are serious about these things, have a chat with your Doctor or Nurse Practioner.
Pretty good concise list.
Added some more coban, steristrips, and sterile scalpels to my home kit today.
Add a roll of narrow width gorilla tape for sealing/securing bandages. Beats the crap out of old fashioned medical tape.
I use these from Tractor Supply. Every now and then they have them on sale for cheap. Coflex and powerflex bandages.
Hey thatguy! I AM NOT trying to discourage you from your venture here. And all above is good solid info! However please do one thing prior to taking this to your work or a gun range. Check with your insurance carrier. At our club, while it is perfectly OK for you to have a kit for your personal use, we do not have a specific "Kit" for club use. WHY you ask, The insurance has told us in no uncertain terms that without properly trained persons to use it ,it increases you liability greatly. So we also went to our local Murder Medic Ambulance Service. They advised the same thing. So while you have one for personal use be careful to work on someone else. Maybe offer it to them to use but that's about it.
Some of the guys above my be trained and or licensed for using them and that is fine. Just saying be careful in todays climate.