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There was just too much to change in the old thread, so I made a new one.​


2Gun Match - Rifle/Pistol

5 stage match. 4 stages of TMMG design, and one 3GN classifier.

3GN membership is NOT required to compete, NOR is membership of Magnolia Rifle and Pistol Club required.

The classifier stage requires one rifle reload - so bring at least 2 mags. For the other stages, shooter’s discretion.

There will be 9 Divisions:
  1. Irons - iron sights only on both rifle and pistol
  2. Practical* (same as limited, where most compete - one optic on their rifle, not on pistol)
  3. Factory*
  4. Unlimited* (same as open)
  5. Heavy Sport*
  6. Heavy Optics*
  7. Optics PCC*
  8. Vintage
    a. Garand or M1 Carbine - clips get heavy scoring
    b. 1911 pistol - all calibers get heavy scoring
  9. Rimfire - rimfire rifle is allowed, but a centerfire pistol is required
* asterisk designates that if the shooter intends for her classifier score to count for 3GN classification, then her equipment must comply with 3GN divisional requirements.

  • Setup will be at 3pm Saturday. If you help you shoot for free.
    • Anything not finished will be built Sunday morning at 6
  • Registration starts at 8
  • Hammer down at 9am Sunday
Match Fees:
  • Free if you are there Saturday evening and building stages
  • Team Magnolia and all juniors: $15
  • Non-members: $25
You can sign up for Team Magnolia at the match for a $30 annual membership.



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Stage 1 - Come Help Your Plate
15 Steel (pistol only)

Stage Make Ready
  • Standing in any box, pistol loaded and holstered
Stage Procedure
  • Engage arrays from their respective box
Stage 2 - 3GN 08-13 “Times 223”
6 minimum

Stage Make Ready
  • Holding rifle at low ready, on safe, standing in either box
Stage Procedure
  • R1-R3 are engaged from Box A, R4-R6 are engaged from Box B
  • Targets may be engaged in any order
  • YOU MUST PERFORM A MANDATORY RELOAD BEFORE ENGAGING THE SECOND ARRAY
    • RELOAD MUST COME FROM THE BELT (if you intend the classifier to count for 3GN classification)
Stage 3 - Angle of the Dangle
12 Paper
14 Steel

Stage Make Ready
  • Holding rifle at port arms, on safe, toes touching any faultline
  • Pistol loaded and holstered
Stage Procedure
  • All paper is engaged with rifle
  • Rifle is dumped in the barrel
  • Steel is only engaged with pistol
Stage 4 - 2 & 1 Standards
2 Paper, 15 shots each

Stage Description
  • This is a standards stage. The objective is to get the hits within the par time.
  • Par time is 4 seconds for each run on both relays
  • Neutralization:
    • For a body hit, you must get an Alpha
    • For a head hit, you must get an Alpha or Bravo
  • Penalties:
    • There should be ten shots in the center mass alpha and 5 shots in the head of both targets. If you do not meet that total, you will get a “miss” for each shot missing from the total.
    • There is a 5 second penalty for each miss.
      • This means that a Charlie hit in the body would be a miss.
    • There is a 5 second penalty for each over-time shot.
  • Score:
    • There is a 40 second total par time for the stage and then your penalties are added to that to calculate your total time
Stage Procedure

Only half of the squad shoots at a time. The non-shooters are standing around to ensure shooters start at the signal and to observe any over-time shots.

First Relay:
  • Rifle loaded, on safe, at low ready, standing behind further shooting line
  • Upon start signal, engage the lower target with 2 to the body, one to the head
  • Repeat 4 more times for a total of 15 shots, ten to the body, 5 to the head
Second Relay:
  • Pistol loaded and holstered or on barrel, standing behind closer shooting line, hands at surrender
  • Upon start signal, engage the upper target with 2 to the body, one to the head
  • Repeat 4 more times for a total of 15 shots, ten to the body, 5 to the head

Stage 5 - Back That Thang Up
15 Paper

Stage Make Ready
  • Pistol loaded and holstered
  • Rifle loaded and on safe, in either dump barrel
  • Toes on X’s, hands at surrender
Stage Procedure
  • Complete course of fire with pistol
  • Pistol is dumped in box
  • Rifle is retrieved from the barrel
  • All paper is engaged again with rifle
HEADS UP - better be careful backin that thang up -
you will get that thang disqualified if you break the 180
 

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Clayton Welch
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so theres not really any change for those of us who come just to shoot and have fun right?
You are correct. This will not affect you if you just want to come shoot for fun. The changes really don't do much other than make one stage per match count for a classification with 3Gun Nation and change the names of our divisions.

Everybody still shoots the classifier stage, as it is just another stage of the match, and it will count for your overall match score. However, if you want the classifier to count for your classification, you will need to join the national organization.

The only noticeable difference anyone unconcerned with 3GN will be subjected to is figuring out what division you will shoot. And if you click on the link that will clear up any doubts easily.
 

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I didn't know there was a classification system for 3gun. Interesting.
Yes, there is under 3Gun Nation. They are the national body that governs all of the really big events around the country and the ones you see on tv.

3GN has plenty of classifier stages too, so we shouldn't see the same one in a year. Unfortunately, there are many we can't shoot at Magnolia under our current restrictions, but that issue is also in the works to be alleviated.

We are planning on doing a classifier every match, similar to how the Team Magnolia and most USPSA clubs do it.

This should be able to work out not only for 3Gun, but for 2Gun and Carbine matches as well.
 

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Yes, there is under 3Gun Nation. They are the national body that governs all of the really big events around the country and the ones you see on tv.

3GN has plenty of classifier stages too, so we shouldn't see the same one in a year. Unfortunately, there are many we can't shoot at Magnolia under our current restrictions, but that issue is also in the works to be alleviated.

We are planning on doing a classifier every match, similar to how the Team Magnolia and most USPSA clubs do it.

This should be able to work out not only for 3Gun, but for 2Gun and Carbine matches as well.
Can you shoot PCC as your only gun?
 

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Can you shoot PCC as your only gun?
Yes you actually you can shoot PCC as your only gun.

That's the whole point of PCC. You can bring a pistol and shotgun too if you want, but neither are necessary.

I can see why you would think that though Lee. Since they aren't transitioning between guns like the rest of us. But that's why PCC is it's division. Doesn't matter that way.
 

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Ya'll need to take a real close look at the ranges this afternoon sometime --- a lot of water on the ranges from the rains last night ........
 
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Ya'll need to take a real close look at the ranges this afternoon sometime --- a lot of water on the ranges from the rains last night ........
Range 7 was underwater. Luckily we aren't shooting there. There were puddles on the 50 and 100. But we got the stages built and ready to go. On the high ground which was dry this afternoon.

The ranges will be soggy in the morning. Bring boots or cleats or whatever you need for grip. Don't be slipping because it's very possible to DQ if you do.

There will be NO vehicles allowed on ANY ranges. Vehicles are not to leave the roads. Ranges are too wet - period.

That means you better bring your cart, stroller, slings, bags, whatever you need to carry all your stuff.

But we did get the stages built. So we will be shooting tomorrow barring extreme circumstances.

Chances of rain: 40% at 7, 30% at 8, 6% at nine. So the ground will be wet in the morning, but we shouldn't be.
 

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That forecast looks a little off compared to this morning radar.
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