[steve2112]

The Honor Defense Honor Guard 9 needs even less force than the 320 did to fire on a drop.

Another test:

 

[2DARK2C]

serious question: how does a glock do in this type test?

are both the sig and hg striker fired? doesn't the trigger HAVE to be pulled to both finish (cocking) drawing striker to the rear, and then release it?

someone told me that a glock is about 3/4 "cocked" by racking the slide. so the striker has to be drawn back 1/4 of the way, then released. none of that can happen from just falling to the ground. usually the ND's I've heard about with a glock involve a finger on the trigger, or maybe a soft holster.

I know you can drop a g26 from about 3.5' and it land on it's side on concrete at least it didn't go off!

 

[Cap'n'Ball]

My understanding is that SIG has addressed and fixed this problem. Is there any news contrary to this?

 

[jakeg823]

My understanding is that SIG has addressed and fixed this problem. Is there any news contrary to this?

Sig has addressed it, as mentioned in at least 1 of the 2 videos.

 

[jakeg823]

serious question: how does a glock do in this type test?

are both the sig and hg striker fired? doesn't the trigger HAVE to be pulled to both finish (cocking) drawing striker to the rear, and then release it?

someone told me that a glock is about 3/4 "cocked" by racking the slide. so the striker has to be drawn back 1/4 of the way, then released. none of that can happen from just falling to the ground. usually the ND's I've heard about with a glock involve a finger on the trigger, or maybe a soft holster.

I know you can drop a g26 from about 3.5' and it land on it's side on concrete at least it didn't go off

When the pistol lands on the rear of its slide, then the striker could likely continue traveling rearwards upon impact, which would fully cock the striker, and then presumably continue forward and striking the primer.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

But I could be thinking about this the wrong way. I’m no physicist.

 

[chris_k]

serious question: how does a glock do in this type test?

are both the sig and hg striker fired? doesn't the trigger HAVE to be pulled to both finish (cocking) drawing striker to the rear, and then release it?

someone told me that a glock is about 3/4 "cocked" by racking the slide. so the striker has to be drawn back 1/4 of the way, then released. none of that can happen from just falling to the ground. usually the ND's I've heard about with a glock involve a finger on the trigger, or maybe a soft holster.

I know you can drop a g26 from about 3.5' and it land on it's side on concrete at least it didn't go off!

I've never seen a glock that wasn't drop safe, unless it was modified, some aftermarket triggers for glock are NOT drop safe, there are some exceptions. So if you modify your glock, make sure you are keeping all of the safety features. I just put an overwatch precision trigger in my 19, and they guarantee it to still be drop safe and retain all of the stock safeties. Not all triggers will state this.

 

[ThatGuy]

I thought glocks had striker channel blocks? I've never owned a glock and have only shot one a couple of times but I thought that was standard on them?

 

[chris_k]

I thought glocks had striker channel blocks? I've never owned a glock and have only shot one a couple of times but I thought that was standard on them?

Yes, they have a safety plunger that blocks the firing pin. Plunger has to be depressed by the trigger mechanism. I think the problem is with some aftermarket triggers, the sudden stop, if dropped, CAN cause the trigger to depress. Not sure how this is possible, but I've read about this happening with certain triggers. I'll see if I can find an article or video and post it.

 

[chris_k]

Here's an agency arms glock firing when dropped:

 

[rigrat]

Be good to know what triggers, thanks.

 

[chris_k]

Here's a good video on the safeties and what aftermarket triggers do to the factory safeties.

Or course, this is made by ROBAR, so they are trying to sell their trigger as well, but it shows how an aftermarket trigger can defeat the drop safety.

 

[Sigfan]

My understanding is that SIG has addressed and fixed this problem. Is there any news contrary to this?

The Sig fix is voluntary. You send it in to Sig and takes some weeks to get your gun back. I have not sent mine yet.

 

[sand_man]

Honor Defense responds to drop test video controversy

 

[2DARK2C]

reads like it's true to me. big money scrambles to shut down the controversy with "every gun is unsafe".

 

[94LEVERFAN]

I own way more than 1 pistol, no Honor Guards. Have dropped a few, no ND. But I sure as hell don't go around whoopin on any firearm I own with a damn hammer.

 

[steve2112]

They are just hitting it with the hammer to demonstrate how much (or how little, actually) force can cause it to fire.

 

[94LEVERFAN]

They are just hitting it with the hammer to demonstrate how much (or how little, actually) force can cause it to fire.

Yeah, but I prefer 3-4 oz. applied to the trigger.

 

[Eajp]

serious question: how does a glock do in this type test?

are both the sig and hg striker fired? doesn't the trigger HAVE to be pulled to both finish (cocking) drawing striker to the rear, and then release it?

someone told me that a glock is about 3/4 "cocked" by racking the slide. so the striker has to be drawn back 1/4 of the way, then released. none of that can happen from just falling to the ground. usually the ND's I've heard about with a glock involve a finger on the trigger, or maybe a soft holster.

I know you can drop a g26 from about 3.5' and it land on it's side on concrete at least it didn't go off!

 

[Eajp]

Glad to hear the Glock is not likely to fire when dropped. Remember the old Ruger Single Six issue prior to the recall for the hammer strike when dropped.

 

[Xd357]

Wow that’s not what I was expecting!