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Spinoff from thread- what did you shoot today

250 rnds 300BO with Barnes 110 TACTX and H110
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Was wanting to insert sign clip art saying: thread useless without pics. But not there. So...post pics

Loading 308 165 gr. Game kings and 150 gr. hot core’s. Working loads almost completed the 150’s ladder test at 1/2 MOA so far

 

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Helped a friend build a jig to cut 223 brass down to blackout. Cut 300 cases down, ran through a die to form and trimmed to length. Working on a jig for me to trim down 223 to make 7.62x25 Tokarev brass.

Keep me updated on this please 7.62x25.

 

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Finished it. Adjustable for tokarev or blackout

It’s designed to mount on a harbor freight 2” chop saw
Sorry it's upside down...Can't figure out how to rotate it.

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Wow very interesting, I like it!

 

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Some more .38 Super's to test

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Have you ever heard of a smiley face 😀? An older man just schooled me and it had to do with a 38 super caliber and reloading...

 

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Lol, what the hell are y’all smoking?🤣

Not to jump into your conversation, but no I have not. Have you ever heard of a bunny fart? 🐇💨

no I haven’t but I do know that the nose movement is because they are rolling turds 💩 into little balls.

 

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Lol, what the hell are y’all smoking?🤣

I don’t know about him smoking but a smiley face which I thought he was going to say glock was actually when people push the 38 super to the extremes and have hot powder blow back into they’re face. Hot loads? You ever heard of that?

 

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Loaded up a couple more 9mm

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Pretty!

 

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Fixed!
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Fixed!
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Do you anneal your brass before creating a new cartridge out of a different case? I would think that would help when sizing down. I have been Annealing my 308 brass by hand and I’m happy with results. I do it by hand with a torch. I have noticed when I do this and seat a bullet it goes in easier but I have also noticed my brass still has spring back and good neck tension. I’m getting that nice rainbow blue color on shoulder area. I’m low tech right now so I twirl it by hand and when I feel the heat coming to me I stop and let it cool back down. Now after I resize and tumble, you would never know I did it by looks because it cleans the rainbow color off and it looks like regular brass again. Anyone else do this? Is it worth it? My goal is to get many many firings out of my cases and have loose primer pockets before I toss em.

 

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This is what I finished loading up now that I got a roll crimper. 🙄 Testing cork vs felt with the goal of 1215 fps. Will post results when I get a chance to chrono and pattern.

5 rounds of 2 1/4 inch short shells: Fiocchi hull, Fiocchi 616 primer, 23.0 grains of Alliant Unique, X12X gas seal wad slick, .185 in cork, .003 in mylar wrap with wad slick, 12 pellets .30 #1 Buck (1 1/8 oz), clear overshot disk, and roll crimped.

(Update): Average 1327 fps. Target at 50 ft.
Velocities: 1368, 1277, 1311, 1359, 1321.
I'll post the pictures when I can get on the laptop.
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5 rounds of 2 1/4 inch short shells: Fiocchi hull, Fiocchi 616 primer, 23.0 grains of Alliant Unique, X12X gas seal wad slick, .200 felt, .003 in mylar wrap with wad slick, 12 pellets .30 #1 Buck (1 1/8 oz), clear overshot disk, and roll crimped.
(Update): Average 1319. Target at 50 ft.
Velocities: 1248, 1380, 1355, 1313, 1297.

I won 550 on a raffle for a reloading page Friday and I was wondering about the mec sm82. That’s the only shotgun press they have. Is it a good press and is it worth reloading shotgun shells. I’ve stacked ammo deep over the years and reloading is just a hobby to me.

 

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Western Field 550.... Nice! MEC SizeMaster82 or any of the MEC shotshell reloaders are good.

Is it worth it? It depends on the person, what you're reloading, and why you're reloading. For me it's more about the mental exercise and joy of doing it. Second to that is being able to reload ammo that has disappeared from store shelves or is hard to find. It gives me many more options. For experimental loads I often use a Lee Load-All II or a roll crimp tool and drill press. It saves having to readjust my MEC for experimental loads. 😉

For most, 1 1/8 oz and 1 oz trap and skeet loads are not worth it anymore. Many of those guys are just buying the 100 round value pack at Walmart. Some are more picky or want a light recoiling load to meet their power factor, so they reload 3/4 or oz 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads.

Field loads, not much saving here.

Buckshot & Slugs, oh yes if you are shooting a lot! This is where the biggest saving is. Many are casting their own.

Novelty and specialty loads, yes if you enjoy shooting them or cannot find them on local shelves. If you are just interested in shooting a few, War Wolf Ordnance loads good stuff. For Specialty hunting loads that don't use lead, it can be hard to find exactly what you want on shelves in Mississippi. Reloading, Roto Metals, Ballistic Products (BPI), and Precision Reloading can provide a solution for making your own.

Yeah that would be me! I would only load special rounds. I’ve stocked up on number 1 buck and slugs already but experimental rounds would be me all the way. My JM pro eats cheap bird shot all day. I got a good one. Shot 100 cleaned gun and I did that 3 times. Since it never jammed I shot 100 3X in 3 months and never cleaned it. Still no jam but it was a ***** to clean. Love my JM PRO 10 shot tube also. Now I clean after every session to make it easier. Thanks for the advice I may just buy the sm82

 

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Hey Tim you ever try the BB,BBB, T, TT size buckshot for any loads?

Let me add to that. And can you use pellet gun bb’s?

 

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Yes, I've loaded BB and #1Buck+BB combo in TPS wads pushed by Blue Dot. I got the unslit TPS and slit them 1/2 way myself. If you want some extra range and penetration, try plated intermediate size shot and #47 buffer.
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I've always been a fan of Bubba Rountree Outdoors YouTube channel. Just wish the Lefties would still allow him to post step by step reloading videos.

If you are talking about .177 cal copper plated lead airgun BBs, you can use lead shot reloading data. If you are refering to .177 steel pellet gun BBs, you want to use steel shot reloading data that used a full length wad to protect the barrel. You will not need buffer with steel shot. The load I've been working up in short shells I was intending for home defense and being able to put an extra shell in tube of semi-auto.

The TPS is a 1 for 1 replacement for the old Multi-Metal Wads.

Nice video thanks for the info

 

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I loaded up a few 12 gauge loads last night and today. Chronographed them today. The most pertanent was 21.5 gr of Unique. Average was 1197 fps. The velocities were 1170, 1199, 1201, 1196, and 1218 fps. Target 50 ft. Point of aim with my shotgun was the 4 inch target circle with fiber optic bead sight.
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I've settled in on this load for home defense. 2 1/4 inch short shells: Fiocchi hull (cut down from 2 3/4" hulls), Fiocchi 616 primer, 21.6 grains of Alliant Unique, X12X gas seal with mica wad slick, .2 inch felt, .003 in mylar wrap with mica wad slick (Two 0.75x1.125 inch), 12 pellets .30 #1 Buck (1 oz), clear overshot disk, and roll crimped. I'm sure this will be between 1200 and 1215 fps.

Reviewing the gas seals, felt, and wrap from range pick up. Didn't find and cork disk. The 23.5 gr load was probably a little too hot, and represents some of the damaged gas seals. The others look good. Looks like the Mylar wrap did its job.
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I've thought about shot size and effectiveness at typical house ranges. I have more confidence in intermediate sizes (B to F) than numbered birds hot sizes. Still I trust buckshot even more than intermediate lettered shot sizes. I have settled on #1 buck as probably the best compromise. Test show it reliably penetrates 12-18 inches of FBI gel, but it penetrates fewer walls than 00 Buck. With buckshot for home defense, I am all for no plating and not overly hard. It is hard to say with intermediate size (B to F) whether plated is better at closes range. Plating may give it an edge at penetrating deep enough to reach organs.

I did test some 3 inch combo loads with #1 and BBs. My thouhgts at the time was I wanted something that would be a good coyote buster and double for home defense. Something I might load up for the 1st round or two of my home defense shotgun. I might have to revisit this idea.

Number 1 is the best defensive round. Your on to something with that load. Excellent work my friend. I’ve got plenty of number 1 buck and that’s my go to.

 

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A day or so ago, 20 rounds, 308, SGK 165, HPBT! Test rounds are accurate enough,

What powder and how many grains? I’m doing good with imr4064 and 43.5 grains on a 150 grain Speer hot core. I’m doing 165 grain bullets next, and then 168.

 

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43 gr Imr4064, setting it just a little bit long. 2.775
Shot 4 rounds under .75in.,... one went just out of that.at 100, ok for deer hunting to me.

I’ll check my seating depth and update I’ve tried different ones but I know it’s a lot longer than that unfortunately because I’m over 2.800 I’m pretty sure on my bolt gun.

 

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Gonna take a little break, then do some of the same load / boolit, just coated with Eastwood's Ford Blue

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Dillon blue! The blue coolaide 🤫

 

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I loaded some more of Bayou Bullets 9mm 115gr yesterday. View attachment 245603

Do you like their bullets? I found that company only about a month ago and it looks like they make good stuff. I seen a video of them testing and there was no lead smoke coming off em. I was going to make a purchase but found some armscor projos really cheap and now I found extreme brand HP’s for cheap. The way components are now, I feel that I should just load defensive rounds to make good use of what primers I have. Hope everyone had a good thanksgiving. I pray things get back to normal but it doesn’t look good. I picked the best and worst time to start reloading. I have a connection to buy primers and he said next week so I’ll buy another k then.

 

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These have a slight crimp

When does crimp affect accuracy? My first load development 150grain Speer hot core 308. I’ve done all oal off ogive and crimped some and not. I haven’t noticed any change in accuracy so I seated them book oal at that point to work in other firearms. Once I hit the sweet spot on the powder charge accuracy didn’t change until over plus 1 grain of powder also. I’ve also tried different brass and same results rem, hornady, federal, ppu, etc. haven’t tried my lake city bras yet though and I will reduce charge for that one. I’ve fired 150 rounds doing ladder test and like I said no change in accuracy once I got the charge right. Then again farthest I have to shoot is 100 yards

 

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Thanks to Randy, got the last of the components I need to start loading some 45 plinking ammo. Got started on the test loads today. Gonna do (10) each at 5.2, 5.4, 5.6, and 5.8 grains of W231

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I had a lot of difference .1 grains work up. 9mm hp38. I loaded longer than book at 1.135 4.9 grains. Somehow I got more velocity than book says for powder with they’re oal 1.10. Check this out! Accuracy didn’t get good until this charge. 115 armscore bullet.

 

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I had a lot of difference .1 grains work up. 9mm hp38. I loaded longer than book at 1.135 4.9 grains. Somehow I got more velocity than book says for powder with they’re oal 1.10. Check this out! Accuracy didn’t get good until this charge. 115 armscore bullet.