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Western Field 550.... Nice! (y) MEC SizeMaster82 or any of the MEC shotshell reloaders are good.

Is it worth it? It depends on the person, what you're reloading, and why you're reloading. For me it's more about the mental exercise and joy of doing it. Second to that is being able to reload ammo that has disappeared from store shelves or is hard to find. It gives me many more options. For experimental loads I often use a Lee Load-All II or a roll crimp tool and drill press. It saves having to readjust my MEC for experimental loads. 😉

For most, 1 1/8 oz and 1 oz trap and skeet loads are not worth it anymore. Many of those guys are just buying the 100 round value pack at Walmart. Some are more picky or want a light recoiling load to meet their power factor, so they reload 3/4 or oz 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads.

Field loads, not much saving here.

Buckshot & Slugs, oh yes if you are shooting a lot! This is where the biggest saving is. Many are casting their own. (y)

Novelty and specialty loads, yes if you enjoy shooting them or cannot find them on local shelves. If you are just interested in shooting a few, War Wolf Ordnance loads good stuff. For Specialty hunting loads that don't use lead, it can be hard to find exactly what you want on shelves in Mississippi. Reloading, Roto Metals, Ballistic Products (BPI), and Precision Reloading can provide a solution for making your own. (y)
Yeah that would be me! I would only load special rounds. I’ve stocked up on number 1 buck and slugs already but experimental rounds would be me all the way. My JM pro eats cheap bird shot all day. I got a good one. Shot 100 cleaned gun and I did that 3 times. Since it never jammed I shot 100 3X in 3 months and never cleaned it. Still no jam but it was a ***** to clean. Love my JM PRO 10 shot tube also. Now I clean after every session to make it easier. Thanks for the advice I may just buy the sm82
 

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I loaded a couple of test lots for .45 Colt. Oregon Trail 250-gr LRNFP, some with 8.2 gr Unique, some with 7.5 gr Universal. I am looking for right at 900 fps in my New Vaquero, wil chrono in the next day or so.
 

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Loaded up 10 test rounds again: 5 with 22.5 gr of Unigue, and 5 with 22.0 gr of Unique. I reweighed the unplated #1 buck I have. It only came up to 1 oz. The 1 1/8 oz was definitely the nickel plated #1 buck in past test.

I tried chronoing some today but knew it was too dark. Only got one good reading at 1275 fps.
 

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Hey Tim you ever try the BB,BBB, T, TT size buckshot for any loads?
 
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Hey Tim you ever try the BB,BBB, T, TT size buckshot for any loads?
Yes, I've loaded BB and #1Buck+BB combo in TPS wads pushed by Blue Dot. I got the unslit TPS and slit them 1/2 way myself. If you want some extra range and penetration, try plated intermediate size shot and #47 buffer.
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I've always been a fan of Bubba Rountree Outdoors YouTube channel. Just wish the Lefties would still allow him to post step by step reloading videos.



Let me add to that. And can you use pellet gun bb’s?
If you are talking about .177 cal copper plated lead airgun BBs, you can use lead shot reloading data. If you are refering to .177 steel pellet gun BBs, you want to use steel shot reloading data that used a full length wad to protect the barrel. You will not need buffer with steel shot. The load I've been working up in short shells I was intending for home defense and being able to put an extra shell in tube of semi-auto.

The TPS is a 1 for 1 replacement for the old Multi-Metal Wads.
 

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Loaded up 10 test rounds again: 5 with 22.5 gr of Unigue, and 5 with 22.0 gr of Unique. I reweighed the unplated #1 buck I have. It only came up to 1 oz. The 1 1/8 oz was definitely the nickel plated #1 buck in past test.

I tried chronoing some today but knew it was too dark. Only got one good reading at 1275 fps.
Those are great looking reloads Tim.
 

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Yes, I've loaded BB and #1Buck+BB combo in TPS wads pushed by Blue Dot. I got the unslit TPS and slit them 1/2 way myself. If you want some extra range and penetration, try plated intermediate size shot and #47 buffer.

If you are talking about .177 cal copper plated lead airgun BBs, you can use lead shot reloading data. If you are refering to .177 steel pellet gun BBs, you want to use steel shot reloading data that used a full length wad to protect the barrel. You will not need buffer with steel shot. The load I've been working up in short shells I was intending for home defense and being able to put an extra shell in tube of semi-auto.
I've been thinking about trying the smaller than #4 buckshot. Seems like TT or #1 buckshot at typical house range would tear a person up.
 
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Yes, I've loaded BB and #1Buck+BB combo in TPS wads pushed by Blue Dot. I got the unslit TPS and slit them 1/2 way myself. If you want some extra range and penetration, try plated intermediate size shot and #47 buffer.
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I've always been a fan of Bubba Rountree Outdoors YouTube channel. Just wish the Lefties would still allow him to post step by step reloading videos.




If you are talking about .177 cal copper plated lead airgun BBs, you can use lead shot reloading data. If you are refering to .177 steel pellet gun BBs, you want to use steel shot reloading data that used a full length wad to protect the barrel. You will not need buffer with steel shot. The load I've been working up in short shells I was intending for home defense and being able to put an extra shell in tube of semi-auto.

The TPS is a 1 for 1 replacement for the old Multi-Metal Wads.
Nice video thanks for the info
 

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I loaded up a few 12 gauge loads last night and today. Chronographed them today. The most pertanent was 21.5 gr of Unique. Average was 1197 fps. The velocities were 1170, 1199, 1201, 1196, and 1218 fps. Target 50 ft. Point of aim with my shotgun was the 4 inch target circle with fiber optic bead sight.
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I've settled in on this load for home defense. 2 1/4 inch short shells: Fiocchi hull (cut down from 2 3/4" hulls), Fiocchi 616 primer, 21.6 grains of Alliant Unique, X12X gas seal with mica wad slick, .2 inch felt, .003 in mylar wrap with mica wad slick (Two 0.75x1.125 inch), 12 pellets .30 #1 Buck (1 oz) stacked in by 4s × 3 layers, clear overshot disk, and roll crimped. I'm sure this will be between 1200 and 1215 fps out of 28" barrel.

Reviewing the gas seals, felt, and wrap from range pick up. Didn't find any cork disk. The 23.5 gr load was probably a little too hot, and represents some of the damaged gas seals. The others look good. Looks like the Mylar wrap did its job.
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I've been thinking about trying the smaller than #4 buckshot. Seems like TT or #1 buckshot at typical house range would tear a person up.
I've thought about shot size and effectiveness at typical house ranges. I have more confidence in intermediate sizes (B to F) than numbered birds hot sizes. Still I trust buckshot even more than intermediate lettered shot sizes. I have settled on #1 buck as probably the best compromise. Test show it reliably penetrates 12-18 inches of FBI gel, but it penetrates fewer walls than 00 Buck. With buckshot for home defense, I am all for no plating and not overly hard. It is hard to say with intermediate size (B to F) whether plated is better at closes range. Plating may give it an edge at penetrating deep enough to reach organs.

I did test some 3 inch combo loads with #1 and BBs. My thouhgts at the time was I wanted something that would be a good coyote buster and double for home defense. Something I might load up for the 1st round or two of my home defense shotgun. I might have to revisit this idea.
 

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I loaded up a few 12 gauge loads last night and today. Chronographed them today. The most pertanent was 21.5 gr of Unique. Average was 1197 fps. The velocities were 1170, 1199, 1201, 1196, and 1218 fps. Target 50 ft. Point of aim with my shotgun was the 4 inch target circle with fiber optic bead sight.
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I've settled in on this load for home defense. 2 1/4 inch short shells: Fiocchi hull (cut down from 2 3/4" hulls), Fiocchi 616 primer, 21.6 grains of Alliant Unique, X12X gas seal with mica wad slick, .2 inch felt, .003 in mylar wrap with mica wad slick (Two 0.75x1.125 inch), 12 pellets .30 #1 Buck (1 oz), clear overshot disk, and roll crimped. I'm sure this will be between 1200 and 1215 fps.

Reviewing the gas seals, felt, and wrap from range pick up. Didn't find and cork disk. The 23.5 gr load was probably a little too hot, and represents some of the damaged gas seals. The others look good. Looks like the Mylar wrap did its job.
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I've thought about shot size and effectiveness at typical house ranges. I have more confidence in intermediate sizes (B to F) than numbered birds hot sizes. Still I trust buckshot even more than intermediate lettered shot sizes. I have settled on #1 buck as probably the best compromise. Test show it reliably penetrates 12-18 inches of FBI gel, but it penetrates fewer walls than 00 Buck. With buckshot for home defense, I am all for no plating and not overly hard. It is hard to say with intermediate size (B to F) whether plated is better at closes range. Plating may give it an edge at penetrating deep enough to reach organs.

I did test some 3 inch combo loads with #1 and BBs. My thouhgts at the time was I wanted something that would be a good coyote buster and double for home defense. Something I might load up for the 1st round or two of my home defense shotgun. I might have to revisit this idea.
Number 1 is the best defensive round. Your on to something with that load. Excellent work my friend. I’ve got plenty of number 1 buck and that’s my go to.
 

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Since it has been raining since late Friday night, haven't been able to test any loads to start loading bulk 9mm and 38 Super. Did just prime 500 pieces of 9mm brass while watching The Mechanic with Charles Bronson

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Loaded some rat shot for a buddy - 357 brass, .3 dipper of powder

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