What Santa brought me...

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Free_Stater

Discussion Starter · Apr 8, 2010

Seeing as how I just logged on for the first time last night, I figured I'd post something to brag about. :thumbup:

This is the Steyr AUG A3 I found under my Christmas tree. Been wanting one for quite some time, but I never had the dead presidents to swing it. But sometimes you just gotta say wtf and go for it.

I outfitted it with an EOTECH 517 (buttons on the side), and have since replaced the Steyr flash hider with a standard NATO unit to make it compatible with a quick release suppressor I bought. (Paperwork should be approved any day now if recent trends hold.) I got the suppressor not so much to kill sound as to tame the incredible blast of this thing! It's fun to shoot, but my hair was getting kinda curly, and at my age using hair straighteners would probably make me even grayer than I already am.

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Free_Stater

Discussion Starter · #21 · Apr 14, 2010

Hey, Cyber. I checked the Ratworx site, and I don't see any mention of the AUGs, only of the MSAR clone. I haven't fired one, but I've handled a couple, and they're tricked out very nicely, just not as expensive as the AUG. For what it's worth, the new AUG is made in the US of A.

Ratworx USA Website

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swede62

· #22 · Apr 15, 2010

Free_Stater said:
swede62 said:

What is the 9mm?

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That's an MK 760 from the early 80s, the successor to the Smith & Wesson M76 SMG.

So it's basically a copy of the Carl Gustav?

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Free_Stater

Discussion Starter · #23 · Apr 15, 2010

The S&W 76 was a close, not exact copy of the Gustaf M45. The 76 is selective fire instead of full auto only, and there are other differences as well. The Swedes embargoed us during the Southeast Asia War Games and wouldn't sell any more of the Ks to us, so S&W was tapped to come up with a replacement. The K/M45 is a more durable weapon, but the Swedish government was afraid our special ops and CIA guys might use them to hurt someone.

The MK760 is a licensed copy of the M76; most, if not all parts will interchange, and the basic difference is the lack of a Smith & Wesson logo (along with $2,500-$3,500 in price). The MK guns also suffered from inconsistent quality, especially in the welding.

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cyberwaste

· #24 · Apr 16, 2010

Went and bought a new knife at extreme outfitters today and there augs are down to $2100

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Free_Stater

Discussion Starter · #25 · Apr 16, 2010

And the gummint says the economy is improving!

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VegasSMG

· #26 · Apr 16, 2010

Nice rifle at a good price.

I owned one of about 1500 16" original black stocked AUGs that were imported into North America. Some went to Canada and the rest to U.S. LE Agencies. Mine had a Fleming sear installed in a trigger pack and I also owned the 24" heavy machine gun barrel in addition to one of fewer than 400 9mm conversion kits to be imported into the country. This gun was hands down, absolutely the smoothest shooting 5.56 caliber machinegun I've ever shot.

Here's a photo of my AUG in the Saudi contract desert tan stock, (I don't care what they call it... it was piss yellow), with the 9mm conversion kit. Note it's compact size with the 16" barrel next to a full size full auto Uzi with a ten inch barrel, and a MAX-11 (M11/9), also with a ten inch barrel.

The Aug's cold hammer forged barrels are near match grade and they have to be the most simple barrels to change on any modern day combat rifle. Heavy, heavy use of plastic but a great and extemely ergonomic rifle other than mag changes.

Get a trigger tamer and you'll thank me. This is without question the biggest return for the least amount on money for any AUG accessory.
http://www.triggertamer.com/default.html

Here's where you'll hate me. The AUG doesn't suppress well.. not at all.

Here's a few numbers that indicate just how rare some of the AUGs and accessories are....

- There were 5,000 Green AUG's imported, some went to Canada.

- There were 1,500 Black AUG's imported, most were sold to Police Officers and some went to Canada.

- There were 3,000 USR's imported, all came with gray stock & grip.

- There were 1,250 AUG Special Receivers imported, all were sold as "AUG Receiver Only" Serial numbers were E001 & also GSISA001.

- There were 150 matching number 9mm AUG's imported (mostly in the hands of LE agenices). These were green AUGs in the 905SAXXX serial # range

- About 400 total 1st/2nd/3rd & 4th generation AUG 9mm kits imported.

- GSI imported 50 factory 14" barrels.

- Pjs Investments imported 130 factory 14" barrels.

- 50 AUG M16 green F/A stocks were imported by GSI.

- 5 NFA Factory LMG Open Bolt green 20" AUGs Imported by GSI.

- There are fewer than 15 AUG LMG open bolt kits in the US.[/QUOTE]

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swede62

· #27 · Apr 16, 2010

Free_Stater said:
The S&W 76 was a close, not exact copy of the Gustaf M45. The 76 is selective fire instead of full auto only, and there are other differences as well. The Swedes embargoed us during the Southeast Asia War Games and wouldn't sell any more of the Ks to us, so S&W was tapped to come up with a replacement. The K/M45 is a more durable weapon, but the Swedish government was afraid our special ops and CIA guys might use them to hurt someone.

The MK760 is a licensed copy of the M76; most, if not all parts will interchange, and the basic difference is the lack of a Smith & Wesson logo (along with $2,500-$3,500 in price). The MK guns also suffered from inconsistent quality, especially in the welding.

I was raking my brain when I posted the question trying to think about what it was. I remember the Smith copy, but didn't know the particulars as to why it had to be done. Heaven forbid our guys would have had to hurt someone with it. :lol4:

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Free_Stater

Discussion Starter · #28 · Apr 16, 2010

VegasSMG said:
Nice rifle at a good price.

Here's where you'll hate me. The AUG doesn't suppress well.. not at all.

Why is that? I don't doubt what you're saying, but it stands to reason (to me) that it would suppress at least as well as any other .223 with a similar barrel length. Lots of the technical aspects of suppressors I don't know and probably wouldn't completely understand if I did. I've shot an AR15 style pistol with a suppressor, and it was pretty darned quiet compared to a 16" gun.

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VegasSMG

· #29 · Apr 16, 2010

Yes you can suppress the AUG, but there are better platforms to suppress... like the AR-15.

The AUG utilizes a gas piston system that bleeds gas from the barrel to operate the piston. The short stub just below the barrel and behind the forward grip houses the gas piston that operates one of two rods on the bolt carrier. One rod operates the bolt, the other rod is for the cocking handle. Excess gas and noise escapes from the piston gas adjustment. Most piston systems, (like the AK), just don't suppress as well as the M-16/AR-15 which uses a direct gas impingement system.

I guess I should have said you probably won't be as happy with the suppressor on the AUG as you would be with an AR-15 gas system. Same thing applies to an AR-15 utilizing a piston upper, they don't suppress well.

You have a truly excellent rifle that's used by the troops in Austria, Ireland, New Zealand, and Australia along with several South American countries as well as I.C.E. here in the States.

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