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12 ga 2-3/4 dram 1-1/8 oz of 7.5 shot. I don't like the idea of too much penetration inside a home. The pattern in most room sized areas is ablout 6-9" That much shot would do the job, no matter what the size of the shot is.

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No one in the house but me and the wife so I don't have to worry about killing anyone but the BG's. Anyway, 00 in 2 3/4 in case they leave the house (only would fire if someone in the house had been injured, otherwise I'd just be a good witness).
 

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Yeah we've bought into the slug and 00 buck deal...

folks really...7.5's and 6's really will get the job done...safer as well for others...

Go pattern your gun and shoot a few water jugs at home defense ranges and see if you are not still impressed..


and G1D is right...need a reload handy as well...I keep the side saddle stocked...10 shots before the 870 goes dry
 

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I have Hevi-Shot loaded up these days. Doesn't matter, though. Chances are I will grab a pistol first in the heat of the moment. Especially since there is usually one on me.

Beladran said:
SJ said:
You hit the first BG with a load of 12 gauge 00 and all other perps with him is going to run. :NO:
I dont want them to run... i want them to die.
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sidroski said:
No one in the house but me and the wife so I don't have to worry about killing anyone but the BG's. Anyway, 00 in 2 3/4 in case they leave the house (only would fire if someone in the house had been injured, otherwise I'd just be a good witness).
Anyone breaking into your home should die, PERIOD. Running away will NOT save your a$$ at my house. Are they all of a sudden a good guy because they ran away? What would they have done to you or your family had they not been scared away? Who knows, but I bet it would not be good. That's kinda their thing, you see.

Do us all a favor, sidroski and anyone else reading this. If someone breaks in your home, kill the idiot so he doesn't end up at my house or the house of an 88yr old couple the next time. :thumbup:

I used to think just like sid, but having children changes the way you look at the world. There are no victims at my house, and I don't want there to be any victims at yours, either.

Didn't mean to single you out, bro. Just using what you said to make a point.

We all need to look out for one another. Lots of freaks out there!
 

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A good setup 12ga HD shotty with the right ammo [2 3/4] will hold 9 pellet 00 buck center mass on a Q target at 25 yards.

Home invasion situations is 5 to 7 yards on average.

Over penetration is possible but will not have energy or velocity after exiting BG to worry about.

Slugs for HD is a no-no imo.

If someone else will be using the HD shotty [wife, kids, elderly], 20ga would be my choice.
 

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I guess this may sound cold....but if someone is brave enough to enter my house for some ill known purpose (especially at night where indications are that we are home) and I confront him - I want him dead.....period. I must assume that since he should know we're home, that he is willing to harm or kill us to do his dirty deeds... I don't want to shoot a light birdshot at him, he gets away wounded, and comes back for revenge at a later date - on his terms...

Of course I understand also about wall penetrations.... and I also am fully aware, as each of us needs to be, of my family's paterns... especially sleeping paterns. My house is an older (my wife's grandparents') simple design with an open living/kitchen area and a long straight hall... also has paneling walls - not really sure if they'd be better than sheetrock... All entrances if approached from my bedroom are clean, clear shots that have no potential to enter a bedroom without passing through cabinets, closets, appliances, and/or bathroom first.....

So I'll shoot the SOB with the killingest round I have!
 

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Don't anyone take me wrong when I say the rest will run that it means I will have quit shooting. I have already told my stepson when he was still living at home not to ever come into my BR without announcing himself because I am not a cop and I don't yell freeze before I start pulling the trigger.
 
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