Well if I go with the 450, I will for sure buy a reloader. You can buy the Grendel ammo without breaking the bank for hunting. But the 450 is higher. I think that the 450 would be a great woods gun and small to medium green fields. Hogs and big bucks would roll with a shoulder hit or tucked tight behind the shoulder.
And as for defense; who would want to charge a semi-auto spitting out 300 grain slugs that would knock down good size pine saplings. Which reminds me, I have to get back on my thurty thurty and Ruger 44 carbine. I,m back on track now, had a good looking woman distracting me. A mans got to do what a mans got to do, at my age, buy more guns.
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And as for defense; who would want to charge a semi-auto spitting out 300 grain slugs that would knock down good size pine saplings. Which reminds me, I have to get back on my thurty thurty and Ruger 44 carbine. I,m back on track now, had a good looking woman distracting me. A mans got to do what a mans got to do, at my age, buy more guns.