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Are they crap,good,great, a POS? I just want to know a guy that I have known for years said he would sell me his for $300 bucks. I personally dont think thats bad even it isnt the most accurate thing in the world.
 

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I recently read some threads on them on the 1911 forum. There's a bunch of folks there absolutely Ga-Ga about them. Built like a tank, if I recall correctly. $300 sounds like a great deal. I'm sure some of you more experienced guys will chime-in, but I got the impression they were kinda the Rock Islands of their day.
 

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Inspect it like you would any other 1911, and if it's in good shape, grab it for $300. I own 2 Norks, one still NIB, and these things are build of very good steel with no MIM parts.
The " crap stuff" is usually voiced by folks that just hate "commie guns". Since they haven't been imported in over a decade, the only ones being sold now are the ones already here before the ban.

IMO they are one of the best clones of the original design, they aren't fancy Dan stuff, but they run good. I sold many of these when I had my FFL and got curious as to why folks kept wanting me to order them. Dealer cost was cheap cheap, so I kept one...it's still running.
I honestly expected the Chinese clone to crap out in a couple of years...it proved me wrong.

I found a NIB on the 1911.org site a few years ago, and gladly bought it for $420 shipped...not many of them around that haven't been molested.(modified)
Added this after a search on 1911.org. from folks who know more about the metal than I do.

Now if we want to talk about relative hardness of steels, Norincos are made from a different steel formulation than Colts are. Comparing Rockwell hardnesses really won't tell you much, but as a general observation, on average the Norincos are at least 30% harder on the surface than most other 1911's, including the Colt. This does not mean they are more brittle - it means that the alloy used to Make the Norincos (5100 tool steel*) results in a much harder surface when heat treated than does the Colt alloy (4140 Ordnance grade tool steel*).

*Although the exact alloy formulations are "industrial secrets", destructive testing done in the USA by the DCM (circa 1997) determined that Colt uses 4140 and the Chinese formulation used in 1911's and M14S receivers is an exact match to AISI 5100 series steel.
 

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Find me one for under $300 and I'll "test it " good for ya. :evil:

Have seen em...never owned or shot one

I too figured they'd be crap'ola
 

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When I had the gun shop in the 1990's they were $125 from the distributor. Within a month they went up to $160, then $190. Originally the pistols were supposed to sell at distributor for $90, then they found out how good they really were and the Chinese and the distributors raised the prices. The only problem I have ever seen with 30-40 pistols was one disconneter did not function. A GI part was installed and the pistol worked fine. I have heard of good results being had when the Chinese pistols were accurized.

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Norinco are good guns, I owned one back in when they first imported them. Sold it to a guy who sent it to Wilson Combat to be used as a base for his race gun. Norinco's one of the few "low priced" gun Wilson will customize.

Have always heard Colt gave Norinco copies of the original blueprints for the 1911A1 in an agreement for Norinco to stop producing and selling AR15 and M16 clones.
Like everyone else said for $300 jump on it or post who has it so we can. :lol4:
 

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Norinco's one of the few "low priced" gun Wilson will customize.
The same is also true (or at least was at one time) of the Polytech M-14's with Fulton Armory doing the work. They build a lot of those super-fancy M-1's and M-14's that cost many thousands of bucks and the Polytech receivers are some of the ones they list that they'll build on.

Personally, I had always thought of them as pretty rugged, but kind of junky. I guess not.

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Now I dont support China at all but I heard they were made from old railroad tracks which is pretty solid steel. I think the guy is going to let me buy both of the ones he has and ill keep one and sell the other. I am going to trade him another 1911 for one of them and get ammo and mags for the difference and just pay cash for the other. Im scared to tell you who it is cause you might pull a commie trick on me :lol4: then i would be :(
 

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Now I dont support China at all
And you won't be. The Chinese made their $$ importing them a decade ago. Any bought and sold here now, puts money in the hands of Americans! Now who did ya say had these? :rotflmao:
 

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Haha stop acting like a commie. Hes a guy in Philadelphia Ms that i have known my whole life. He already reserved those 2 for me. What im gonna do is keep one and sell the other. I can easily make a 50 dollar profit. Notice I didnt give a whole lot of info in the place haha. :lol4:
 

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Hope it serves you well. BTW, I DO know folks in Philadelphia LOL, but I don't do the backstabbing thang. Don't forget a range report, and remember....Pics or it never happened. 8)
 

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If I end up going to the M&G I'll bring both of them I'm buy both from him. I'll fix both of them up the way I like them and then probably sell the other one. Don't know don't hve them yet but I'm waiting on them when he comes down here to bring them
to me.
 

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Norincos were one of the few types of 1911s that Wilson would build on, back in the day. I bought one used several years ago and have had no problems with it.

There was a thread on one of the 1911 forums to the effect that some Norincos had problems with the way the barrel lugs fit into the slide and, if left as is, could severely damage both the barrel and the slide. I'd just keep an eye on the locking lugs for any unusual wear patterns. If something looks abnormal, take it to a good gunsmith for a replacement barrel (good time for a match barrel, if so inclined).

Stryker60

PS: Here's one of the threads about this problem. 1911Tuner is the guy who has quite a bit of experience with this situation.
http://www.thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=401951&page=3
 

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I appreciate the information the ones I am getting do not have anyproblems they are excellent. I already checked them out but thanks I will look into that if I come across any other Norincos
 
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