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I was fortunate enough to be involved with the DCM before it became the CMP. The DCM sold 1903 rifles in 1960 for $34 in new condition, M1 NM Rifles $115, .45 1911 for $15.00 .30 M1 rifle and carbine ammo for $.03 per round. and 1903-M1 parts for scrap metal prices. I will tell you why the subsidy was discontinued.

The primary piurpose of the DCM ewas to train young people (those under draft age) in shooting rifled arms. They were a part of the US Army iuntil the DCM was privatized in the 1980's and became the CMP. THe DCM got it's budget money directly from the US Army.

In the 1970's the DCM started paying State Adult Senior Teams expense money to attend the National Matches at Camp Perry. I attended the Match at Camp Perry in 1983 as a Mississippi State Highpower Rifle Team Member. I received $240 in travel money. I saw this practice as a potential danger to the program's appropriation. In 1984, I was at Camp Perry and had a meeting with the Director of Civilian Marksmanship. I told him, if the money allotted to the Senior Teams was not redirected to Junior Teams, there was apsossibility that the DCM could lose it's funding. What I actually said was; "If a Liberal member of Congress finds out the DCM is spending $1,500,000 on State Senior Teams, they will probably try to cut your funding." I met Col. Gilcrist in 2004 at the NRA Headquarters Building. I was taking a Piistol Class and had the opportunity to meet all the program directors in the NRA. He said, he was aware of the problem but was powerless to do anything about it in 1984.

Enter US Rep. Pete Stark of California. He attacked the DCM's use of funds and the DCM lost their funding. If the DCM changed it's policy on subsidizing teams, they would have probably not lost the funding. We would still be buying surplus firearms and ammunition from the CMP for a lot less than we are right now.


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With those bent on doing away with 2A the last 20+ years. Getting tax dollars to mail guns and ammo to citizens or help shooting teams was going to end along with the program.

The compromise was CMP as you stated. The gun grabbers were after DCM no matter what they changed.

The funding issue was an end run to kill the program completely. The real target was to stop selling weapoms to the public.

CMP prices are higher on that we agree. Where would we be without CMP? There are those after this program and it to may not survive.

As the old song goes, "those were the days my friend, we thought they'ed never end".

The good old days are gone, we have to make today a good day so when we look back on 2010 it to will be the good old days.
 

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I really think there was a lot in play during the 70's, 80's and 90's that had a real affect of DCM and CMP. There were several Executive Orders that were in play. One actually stopped the return of Granads/Carbines/1911s that were sent overseas on Lend/Lease -- it reason given was that the American firearms companies did not want these weapons brought back into the courtry because it would "hurt" business - I do believe it had something to do with some the anti-gun crowd's agenda also. Regan reversed the Executive Order; however, Clinton ordered the destruction of countless numbers of Garands and 1911s. Bush stopped much of that and CMP started seeing a steady supply of Garands and other rifles being returned from countries like Greece, Italy, Denmark and many South American countries. As I understand it, under the CMP Charter they sell at "fair market value."

While I would really like to buy a few hundred '03s at $30 each, those days are long, long gone - so are the '03s. This has not just happened to DCM/CMP. I can remember going into such discount stores like Roses and see garbage cans full of K98s for about $30 each. Of course, I was newly married with not much money to spend and $30 was a lot of money to me at that time for a rifle to have with no real hunting purpose (at least that was what I thought) ... w

With the exception of the Garand and Mosin/Nagants, it seems that the large cache of military rifles have been depleted. All I can say now is, if you ever wanted one, get it now ... Prices will continue to rise.
 

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I have an old Mauser and have been thinking about getting a Mosin/Nagant, just because. I really wish you could still buy 1911's from CMP!
 

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91/30's are still cheap....I never knew DCM or CMP ever sold pistols.

Wish I could have gotten a nice Enfield or some Rockola Carbines...I was busted when they came around
 
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